SC - don't cringe too bad....

[Sue Clemenger]

I know what you mean...we don't even have one in-state that I'm aware of. <grin?

- --Maire (NW Montana)

Michael Newton wrote:

> All this talk about Boston Market is making me Hungry and I don't have one
> within 75 miles of me. Please stop talking about Chicken, I don't even have
> a KFC close.
>
> thorbjorn
> NE IOWA.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <lilinah at earthlink.net>
> To: <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: SC - don't cringe too bad....
>
> > Gunthar, Evil List Administrator wrote:
> > >Something that disturbs me about the members of the list is the sometimes
> > >oversmug attitude that pops up. There are a lot of feelings that if it
> isn't
> > >homemade or by a tiny specialty shop then the food is junk and only the
> > >uneducated American cretins would eat such swill.
> > (snip)
> > >I've viewed several threads happening right now and superior attitudes
> and
> > >even arrogance have been poking through. Discussions are good. Recipes
> > >and assistance are great. But degrading things, cutting down one regional
> > >cuisine over another or even superior slamming of others who dare to not
> > >do everything at home should be considered with caution.
> >
> > I agree with what Gunthar says and i hope that, while my posts
> > express personal opinion, they do not express any kind of contempt
> > for people who have different taste, knowledge, and preferences from
> > me.
> >
> > (snip)
> > >I feel that Boston Market does a good job. The chicken is moist and
> tasty,
> > >the potatoes are real and so is the gravy as well as many other dishes.
> It's
> > >not the best you can get but definately superior to many fast-food
> markets.
> > >If you don't care for it that's well and good but to lambaste it could
> cause
> > >hurt to someone who likes it but feels they would be considered a fool
> for
> > >having such a bumpkin attitude.
> >
> > In self defense, i know my post did not lambaste Boston Market. I
> > believe that if one knows what one is getting, one may be able to
> > find acceptable fast food (well, maybe some folks will never find
> > acceptable fast food, but at least some of us can). I was quite
> > willing to accept Boston Market's food as what it was, or at least
> > what i hoped, which was tasty fast food.
> >
> > I mentioned reheated poultry flavor. It was there. It is a statement
> > of fact. I don't like reheated poultry flavor, and i stated that it
> > was personal opinion. I certainly intended to hurt or snub no one. It
> > was not a criticism of other people who think Boston Market is ok,
> > and if some folks felt it was a personal attack on them, then i
> > apologize for using unclear language. Other folks have different
> > taste from me and the world would be a boring place indeed if that
> > were not so. I very much value heterogeneity, and that extends to
> > food.
> >
> > However, i very much dislike the flavor of reheated poultry. If
> > chicken has been cooked then chilled, i will eat it cold rather than
> > reheat it, regardless of who cooked it and how. I don't care if it
> > was made by MacDonald's or the best SCA Laurel in cooking or Julia
> > Child or even if i cooked it myself - i don't reheat chicken. I just
> > don't like it reheated. Personal taste. As i hoped i had made clear.
> > Hardly a criticism of anyone else who may not mind the flavor of
> > reheated poultry.
> >
> > The vegetables were indeed soggy. I have eaten soggy vegetables at
> > other places and will no doubt eat them again. Sometimes i
> > inadvertently cook them that way myself, and i eat them. I just
> > figured that opening a can at home was just about as quick,
> > inexpensive, and possibly less soggy.
> >
> > >When posting something, please watch your words or attitudes. If you
> write
> > >something please think that you may be insulting or hurting one of the
> 80% of
> > >this list who never post and that is usually because they feel they
> wouldn't
> > >be worthy of contributing becuase they go to McDonalds or somesuch.
> >
> > I hoped my post would inform others that
> > (1) Boston Market is indeed still in business under that name but
> > owned by a different corporation, although some outlets have been
> > closed,
> > (2) the poultry tasted reheated - if that bothers you don't eat it,
> > if it doesn't bother you then you won't mind,
> > and
> > (3) sometimes you can find other sources of fast food for the same
> > amount of money that is qualitatively better than that served in more
> > conventional fast food places.
> >
> > I did not criticize, nor am i criticizing folks, who choose to eat
> > there. I don't think i gave that impression, but if i did, i
> > apologize.
> >
> > We on this list all eat a wide range of foods for a wide range of
> > reasons. We each have different standards and different needs, and
> > for many of us, our standards can be variable in different
> > situations. People on this list live in many different kinds of
> > places. Some of us have access to a wide range of foodstuffs, others
> > have more limited sources. Some of us live where there are
> > communities of people from many parts of the world, others of us live
> > where the communities are less varied. We each have different cooking
> > experiences, different levels of skill, different personal
> > expectations. Some of us have more money to spend than others (i
> > don't have much myself), and no matter how much money any one of us
> > may have, we have different priorities for spending it. I certainly
> > don't expect everyone (or even anyone else on the planet) to make the
> > same choices or have the same opinions i do. But if i have a choice
> > or opinion, i like to to be clear why, if the topic is under
> > discussion.
> >
> > That's one thing i think is good about the SCA - people with a wide
> > range of expectations and desires can get together. Some folks will
> > always wear polyester and eat modern food. Others choose to be as
> > historically accurate as possible. And there is a broad spectrum in
> > between. Yet even with these many differences, we can all play
> > together and have fun (ok, so not all of the people all of the time,
> > but at least some of the people some of the time :-)
> >
> > *** Back to the topic of fast food ***
> >
> > I've eaten my share of fast food in the last couple years or so
> > because i'm in a small Ren Fair guild, we travel as a convoy, and the
> > gang needs to eat on the road to and from fairs. I have no car and
> > must depend for rides on others whose preferences are not my own. I
> > just like to know what to expect so i can make choices suitable to my
> > personal taste.
> >
> > For example, I just came back from West Kingdom Crown Tournament and
> > my consort and i ate fast-ish food both going and returning.
> >
> > On the way to Crown, we stopped at Denny's. I ordered french fries
> > with melted grated cheese and crumbled bacon. I often have the
> > chicken Caesar salad, but Friday night i wanted something warm. When
> > i got it, the fries were barely room temperature and because they
> > were cold the cheese hadn't melted. We had waited at least 30 minutes
> > for them in a restaurant without many customers. It was around 10 PM
> > and we really wanted to get to the site and set up our pavilion, so i
> > ate them without complaining to the staff. It wasn't the waitress's
> > fault. She had come to our table twice to say she didn't know what
> > was taking the kitchen so long. So again i say, i didn't expect
> > gourmet, but i at least expected the fries to be hot. Were my
> > expectations snobbish?
> >
> > On the way back, we had eaten no lunch and it was almost 5 PM. We
> > stopped at a Baker's Square, again solidly middle American food. I
> > ordered beef stew. It wasn't particularly good, but it was exactly
> > what i expected it to be, no unanticipated surprises. It hit the spot.
> >
> > While i admit to being something of a food snob, i am not utterly
> > rigid. While i prefer not eat at Taco Bell, i can generally find
> > something i'm willing to eat at KFC (but not fried chicken), Mickey
> > D, Jack in the Box, and some other places if that is where the driver
> > wants to stop.
> >
> > My post was merely meant to point out that there are differences in
> > quality in fast food, and that one can sometimes find good food at a
> > specialty shop (which most folks think of as expensive) for the same
> > price as similar food at a fast food stop.
> >
> > My consort always complains about me bringing a cooler (to keep the
> > fresh vegetables crisp and the yogurt and milk cold), a camp stove
> > (which i share with others in the encampment), and a range of
> > peri-oid or period foods for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. He'd be
> > content with fast food, donuts and canned chili. He doesn't
> > understand why i care about food quality and why i bother to cook
> > period food. He doesn't care much and he wouldn't bother. Yet we are
> > still consorts.
> >
> > Anahita al-shazhiyya
> > i hope a not so evil list member
> > still not queen of the West
> >
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