SC - Re: HP type Sauce REC (was Lea & Perrins etc.)

Thu Nov 30 16:57:10 PST 2000

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I'm resending this as for some reason I don't see that it got to the list.  
If any of you did receive it, I apologize for the duplicate post.

> In a message dated 11/29/00 9:51:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> mooncat at in-tch.com writes:
> 
> 
> 
> >> > > > Just another dumb question....Lea and Perrins Houses of 
>> Parlement????
>> >              What is meant by this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^?
>> > I know I'm missing something.
>> > 
>> > Olwen
>> >
> 
> 
> I'm not sure, but I thought Lea and Perrins and Houses of Parliament were 
> two different companies....  but I might be wrong there.  HP Sauce comes in 
> a narrow squared bottle and has a turquoise label on the front which has a 
> small black and white photo of Big Ben and the Houses of Parliament on it - 
> if people are looking for it, and generally has the letters "HP" boldly 
> written under the picture.
> 
> I was looking at the book "First Catch Your Peacock" by Bobby Freeman and 
> she has this to say about such sauces as HP, and gives the following 
> recipe.  (No sources cited by her on this first paragraph though:-( )
> 
> "Suryn Cyffaith Poeth   [pronounced Suh-rr-in Cuh-fah-eeth Poh-ee-th]
> 
> A rough translation of this would be "hot sour pickle confection", and that 
> is just what it is - one of the many recipes for this kind of sauce that 
> has its roots in the very earliest condiment, the liquamen of the Romans, 
> made from the salted putrefied remains of fish and their entrails, which 
> took the place of salt in most of their dishes.  The Romans had adopted it 
> from the Greeks (garum) and used it throughout their western Empire.  
> British MS cookery books contain similar recipes, together with a number of 
> catsups or ketchups of various kinds.  Eventually the preparation of these 
> condiments was taken over by commercial firms and are with us today under 
> their famous brand-names.  
> 
> This particular sauce is remarkably like HP sauce.  The recipe undoubtedly 
> found its way into Croeso Cymreig [A Welsh Cookbook] from and MS book in a 
> Welsh Plas [a manor or stately/large home].
> 
> 6 lemons                             1/4 oz mace
> 2 oz horseradish                   1/4 oz nutmeg
> 1 lb salt                               1/4 oz cayenne
> 6 cloves of garlic                   2 oz mustard
> 1/4 oz cloves                        2 quarts malt vinegar
> 
> Cut the lemons into eighths and cover with salt, cut the horseradish very 
> finely, then place with the rest of the ingredients in a big jar that has a 
> lid.  Place the jar in a boiler of water (with the water coming to within 2 
> inches of the rim of the jar).  Bring to the boil and boil for 15 minutes.  
> Stir the mixture every day for 6 weeks, and keep the lid on.  At the end of 
> 6 weeks, strain into small bottles and cork tightly.  This will keep for 
> years, and a little will go far.  Serve with veal or Salt Duck."
> 
> Elysant
> 
> 

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<HTML>I'm resending this as for some reason I don't see that it got to the list.   If any of you did receive it, I apologize for the duplicate post.</BLOCKQUOTE>
 
 
 
 <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">In a message dated 11/29/00 9:51:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, mooncat at in-tch.com writes:
 
 
 
 <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">> > > Just another dumb question....Lea and Perrins Houses of Parlement????
 >              What is meant by this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^?
 > I know I'm missing something.
 > 
 > Olwen
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 I'm not sure, but I thought Lea and Perrins and Houses of Parliament were two different companies....  but I might be wrong there.  HP Sauce comes in a narrow squared bottle and has a turquoise label on the front which has a small black and white photo of Big Ben and the Houses of Parliament on it - if people are looking for it, and generally has the letters "HP" boldly written under the picture.
 
 I was looking at the book "First Catch Your Peacock" by Bobby Freeman and she has this to say about such sauces as HP, and gives the following recipe.  (No sources cited by her on this first paragraph though:-( )
 
 "Suryn Cyffaith Poeth   [pronounced Suh-rr-in Cuh-fah-eeth Poh-ee-th]
 
 A rough translation of this would be "hot sour pickle confection", and that is just what it is - one of the many recipes for this kind of sauce that has its roots in the very earliest condiment, the liquamen of the Romans, made from the salted putrefied remains of fish and their entrails, which took the place of salt in most of their dishes.  The Romans had adopted it from the Greeks (garum) and used it throughout their western Empire.   British MS cookery books contain similar recipes, together with a number of catsups or ketchups of various kinds.  Eventually the preparation of these condiments was taken over by commercial firms and are with us today under their famous brand-names.  
 
 This particular sauce is remarkably like HP sauce.  The recipe undoubtedly found its way into Croeso Cymreig [A Welsh Cookbook] from and MS book in a Welsh Plas [a manor or stately/large home].
 
 6 lemons                             1/4 oz mace
 2 oz horseradish                   1/4 oz nutmeg
 1 lb salt                               1/4 oz cayenne
 6 cloves of garlic                   2 oz mustard
 1/4 oz cloves                        2 quarts malt vinegar
 
 Cut the lemons into eighths and cover with salt, cut the horseradish very finely, then place with the rest of the ingredients in a big jar that has a lid.  Place the jar in a boiler of water (with the water coming to within 2 inches of the rim of the jar).  Bring to the boil and boil for 15 minutes.   Stir the mixture every day for 6 weeks, and keep the lid on.  At the end of 6 weeks, strain into small bottles and cork tightly.  This will keep for years, and a little will go far.  Serve with veal or Salt Duck."
 
 Elysant
 
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