SC - TI Article - Support Kitchen

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Could you post the recipe for those without access to Dining please?
 
Eleanor

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From: owner-sca-cooks at ansteorra.org [mailto:owner-sca-cooks at ansteorra.org]On
Behalf Of Elaine Koogler
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 1:47 PM
To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: SC - TI Article - Support Kitchen


If it helps, I've documented melons of various sorts as period in both China
and Japan, and I'd be amazed if the same weren't true of the Middle East and
Spain.  I know that watermelon is period at least in north Africa. 

I don't have a period recipe for it, but strongly suspect that pickled beef
is period and I do have a recipe for a kind of pickled pork...pork brawn.
The recipe that has been redacted in Dining with William Shakespeare is
excellent!  It does need refrigeration, but can and should be served cold
with a good mustard.  That way, you'd combine both a good, recognizable meat
with the benefits of vinegar/wine used to pickle. 


Kiri 


Jenne Heise wrote: 


> The object of this lesson is that if the fighters are presented with, say
a 
> nice pork 
> pie, they will eat it and like it. One of the energy foods that I always
bring 
> and I 
> usually run out of is dried apricots. And fighters being the beasts that
we 
> are, will 
> eat anything. 

I've found that this is true at feasts. Dayboards, however, are a nother 
situation, because you are trying to get fighters to eat during the heat 
of the day, during the actual fighting. When the heat is bad, it's hard to 
get anyone to eat anything, especially unfamiliar foods or combinations of 
foods. Heat can make people queasy. Mucdh though it may pain your period 
cook soul to let people get away with food they recognize, such as cold 
roast meat, hard boil eggs, bread, fresh produce, pickles, Serving a lot 
of food that the fighters can't stomach or shy away from benefits nobody. 


Our shire does two reasonably large fighting events, one 300-person theme 
evetn and one big war camp--800 people and up, every year. 


For the se events, we have fresh fruit including melons (I know that I 
can't document europeans eating melon fresh in period, sorry),apples, 
grapes and pears (documentable), other soft stone fruits and quartered 
oranges (doubtful) fresh vegetables-- carrots and celery, and turnips if 
I'm requesting it: turnips and celerey may have been eaten raw--, pickels, 
olives, cheese, hard-boiled eggs, and bread. For the big event there are 
also modern pretzels, olives, and graham crackers; for the smaller event, 
there is a protein of some kind- cold chicken was less sucessful than 
breadrolls with sausage, chhese, mushrooms, or onions baked inside. 


Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, mka Jennifer Heise        jenne at tulgey.browser.net 
disclaimer: i speak for no-one and no-one speaks for me. 


" Oh, Adam was a gardener, and God who made him sees 
That half a proper gardener's work is done upon his knees, 
So when your work is finished, you can wash your hands and pray 
For the Glory of the Garden, that it may not pass away!" -- Kipling 


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<DIV><SPAN class=072591422-11092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Could 
you post the recipe for those without access to Dining 
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<DIV><SPAN class=072591422-11092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
  owner-sca-cooks at ansteorra.org [mailto:owner-sca-cooks at ansteorra.org]<B>On 
  Behalf Of </B>Elaine Koogler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 11, 2000 1:47 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> sca-cooks at ansteorra.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: SC - TI 
  Article - Support Kitchen<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>If it helps, I've documented 
  melons of various sorts as period in both China and Japan, and I'd be amazed 
  if the same weren't true of the Middle East and Spain.  I know that 
  watermelon is period at least in north Africa. 
  <P>I don't have a period recipe for it, but strongly suspect that pickled beef 
  is period and I do have a recipe for a kind of pickled pork...pork 
  brawn.  The recipe that has been redacted in <I>Dining with William 
  Shakespeare</I> is excellent!  It does need refrigeration, but can and 
  should be served cold with a good mustard.  That way, you'd combine both 
  a good, recognizable meat with the benefits of vinegar/wine used to pickle. 
  <P>Kiri 
  <P>Jenne Heise wrote: 
  <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">> The object of this lesson is that if the 
    fighters are presented with, say a <BR>> nice pork <BR>> pie, they 
    will eat it and like it. One of the energy foods that I always bring 
    <BR>> and I <BR>> usually run out of is dried apricots. And fighters 
    being the beasts that we <BR>> are, will <BR>> eat anything. 
    <P>I've found that this is true at feasts. Dayboards, however, are a nother 
    <BR>situation, because you are trying to get fighters to eat during the heat 
    <BR>of the day, during the actual fighting. When the heat is bad, it's hard 
    to <BR>get anyone to eat anything, especially unfamiliar foods or 
    combinations of <BR>foods. Heat can make people queasy. Mucdh though it may 
    pain your period <BR>cook soul to let people get away with food they 
    recognize, such as cold <BR>roast meat, hard boil eggs, bread, fresh 
    produce, pickles, Serving a lot <BR>of food that the fighters can't stomach 
    or shy away from benefits nobody. 
    <P>Our shire does two reasonably large fighting events, one 300-person theme 
    <BR>evetn and one big war camp--800 people and up, every year. 
    <P>For the se events, we have fresh fruit including melons (I know that I 
    <BR>can't document europeans eating melon fresh in period, sorry),apples, 
    <BR>grapes and pears (documentable), other soft stone fruits and quartered 
    <BR>oranges (doubtful) fresh vegetables-- carrots and celery, and turnips if 
    <BR>I'm requesting it: turnips and celerey may have been eaten raw--, 
    pickels, <BR>olives, cheese, hard-boiled eggs, and bread. For the big event 
    there are <BR>also modern pretzels, olives, and graham crackers; for the 
    smaller event, <BR>there is a protein of some kind- cold chicken was less 
    sucessful than <BR>breadrolls with sausage, chhese, mushrooms, or onions 
    baked inside. 
    <P>Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, mka Jennifer 
    Heise        jenne at tulgey.browser.net 
    <BR>disclaimer: i speak for no-one and no-one speaks for me. 
    <P>" Oh, Adam was a gardener, and God who made him sees <BR>That half a 
    proper gardener's work is done upon his knees, <BR>So when your work is 
    finished, you can wash your hands and pray <BR>For the Glory of the Garden, 
    that it may not pass away!" -- Kipling 
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