SC - Removes and Feastocrat

Christine A Seelye-King mermayde at juno.com
Thu Sep 28 13:25:39 PDT 2000


FEASTS RULE!
I like it. 
Christianna

On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:49:40 -0700 david friedman <ddfr at best.com> writes:
> At 9:04 PM -0400 9/27/00, Catherine Deville wrote:
> 
> >as for feastcrat.  if/when i become active again, i expect that i 
> will use
> >whatever is common in my local group or what is most prevalent 
> within
> >Meridies as per the dominant Kingdom custom.  as for past usage, we 
> *were*
> >all feastcrats... and not only was that what was used 
> *historically* within
> >our Kingdom in the SCA
> 
> I have long described the West Kingdom attitude to historical 
> authenticity as "of course it's authentic--we've been doing it for 
> years." I intended that as a (critical) joke, but apparently you 
> regard the equivalent as a legitimate defense of the practice.
> 
> The SCA doesn't claim to be about recreating the history of the SCA 
> but about recreating the history of the middle ages and the 
> renaissance. So the fact that a historical error has been made in 
> the 
> past doesn't provide a "historical" argument for continuing to make 
> it.
> 
> 
> >(which is relevant to the SCA's internal historical
> >context) but the term was appropos regardless of it's historocity 
> based on
> >it's etymology.
> 
> Perhaps you could expand on the etymological argument. Are you using 
> 
> "feastocrat" to mean someone who believes that the feast ought to 
> rule, in parallel with a "democrat"--someone who believes that the 
> people ("Demos") ought to rule? Or are you using it to mean a feast 
> that does rule in a political system ruled by feasts, in parallel 
> with an "aristocrat"--one of the rulers in a system where the best 
> ("Aristos") rule (at least, that's the theory).
> 
> I can see something to be said for the idea that feasts ought to 
> rule, but I don't think that is what most people mean by 
> "feastocrat."
> 
> Try reversing the direction of the argument. If a feastocrat is 
> someone who rules a feast then an autocrat is someone who rules 
> himself. But that isn't what "autocrat" means, either in the SCA or 
> elsewhere.
> -- 
> David/Cariadoc
> http://www.daviddfriedman.com/
>
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