SC - lentils! lentils!

Mon Apr 16 12:27:27 PDT 2001

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I'm just delighted that handicapped folks are now being considered.  I
remember a number of years ago when I was told by a very unfeeling
autocrat at Pennsic that I could not make special arrangements for a
campsite...and that Pennsic really was not the place for those with
handicaps!  (I was on chemotherapy at the time, and needed a cool, quiet
place to camp).

Kiri

Bronwynmgn at aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 4/15/2001 4:16:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> rovena at softdisk.com writes:
>
>
>
>> You stated that every person should have the option of participating
>> in
>> everything.  Is that realistic?  How would a wheelchair  person
>> fight in a
>> melee?
>
> There is a Tuchuk who uses a wheelchair who fights regularly in the
> field
> battle at Pennsic.  He has a special "battle chair" which his friends
> maneuver for him, and he fights from his knees.  If you have the
> footage from
> the Today show or Amazing America (I forget which) which was shot at
> Pennsic
> about 5 years ago, there is a picture of him in the chair before
> battle and
> being wheeled into the fray as it starts.  At least in the Pennsic
> rules, and
> I believe in the EK rules as well, there is a new one that states
> "Wheelchairs may not be used as battering rams"...  There is also, of
> course,
> Sir Keif of Ansteorra, who is missing a leg and fights on two crutches
> and
> one foot.  It is my understanding that he joined the SCA, and was
> knighted,
> after losing his leg.
> I am a physical therapist in the mundane world.  You would be amazed
> (I
> constantly am, even after a dozen years in the field) at the things
> that
> people in wheelchairs and with disabilities constantly figure out ways
> to do.
>
> I think the correct way to word this is that we shouldn't totally
> exclude the
> possibility of someone being able to participate in something just
> because
> a)we don't think he can or b) the current rules don't cover the
> adaptations
> needed.  We should have open minds and try to think of ways to include
> as
> many people as possible, without putting anyone at a level of
> unacceptable
> risk.  It is still likely that some people will not be able to
> participate in
> some activities other than as a knowledgable spectator (and sometimes
> not
> even then), but at least we will have considered the options instead
> of
> dismissing them out of hand.
>
> In a food context, to me, this means making sure that my menus are
> sufficiently varied that the same ingredient doesn't show up in more
> than 1/3
> of the dishes served at any given meal, and that my kitchen workers
> and
> myself are as careful as we can be about avoiding cross-contamination
> and
> making sure items are stored and cooked properly.  I don't make
> "special
> portions" for people with allergies or food choices - I design my
> menus so
> that they will have a sufficient meal without me needing to do that at
> all.
>
> Brangwayna Morgan

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I'm just delighted that handicapped folks are now being considered. 
I remember a number of years ago when I was told by a very unfeeling autocrat
at Pennsic that I could not make special arrangements for a campsite...and
that Pennsic really was not the place for those with handicaps!  (I
was on chemotherapy at the time, and needed a cool, quiet place to camp).
Kiri
Bronwynmgn at aol.com wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>In a message
dated 4/15/2001 4:16:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
 rovena at softdisk.com writes:
  
  
<blockquote TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">You
stated that every person should have the option of participating in
 everything.  Is that
realistic?  How would a wheelchair  person fight in a
 melee?</blockquote>

<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>There is a Tuchuk
who uses a wheelchair who fights regularly in the field</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>battle at Pennsic. 
He has a special "battle chair" which his friends</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>maneuver for
him, and he fights from his knees.  If you have the footage from</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>the Today show
or Amazing America (I forget which) which was shot at Pennsic</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>about 5 years
ago, there is a picture of him in the chair before battle and</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>being wheeled
into the fray as it starts.  At least in the Pennsic rules, and</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>I believe in
the EK rules as well, there is a new one that states</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>"Wheelchairs
may not be used as battering rams"...  There is also, of course,</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Sir Keif of
Ansteorra, who is missing a leg and fights on two crutches and</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>one foot. 
It is my understanding that he joined the SCA, and was knighted,</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>after losing
his leg.</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>I am a physical
therapist in the mundane world.  You would be amazed (I</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>constantly am,
even after a dozen years in the field) at the things that</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>people in wheelchairs
and with disabilities constantly figure out ways to do.</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>I think the correct
way to word this is that we shouldn't totally exclude the</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>possibility
of someone being able to participate in something just because</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>a)we don't think
he can or b) the current rules don't cover the adaptations</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>needed. 
We should have open minds and try to think of ways to include as</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>many people
as possible, without putting anyone at a level of unacceptable</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>risk. 
It is still likely that some people will not be able to participate in</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>some activities
other than as a knowledgable spectator (and sometimes not</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>even then),
but at least we will have considered the options instead of</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>dismissing them
out of hand.</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>In a food context,
to me, this means making sure that my menus are</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>sufficiently
varied that the same ingredient doesn't show up in more than 1/3</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>of the dishes
served at any given meal, and that my kitchen workers and</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>myself are as
careful as we can be about avoiding cross-contamination and</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>making sure
items are stored and cooked properly.  I don't make "special</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>portions" for
people with allergies or food choices - I design my menus so</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>that they will
have a sufficient meal without me needing to do that at all.</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Brangwayna Morgan</font></font></font></blockquote>
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