SC - On topic

[Bronwynmgn@aol.com]

> Aleska says:
> > In Adria, knighthoods are awarded in multiple areas-- arts and sciences, archery, and ministry (administration) in addition to combat.
> Kiri:
> At one time, the BoD considered the concept of referring to Companions of the Laurel and Pelican as Knights...so there would have been three orders of Knighthood:  Knights of the Laurel, Pelican and
> Chivalry.  The recipients would have been referred to as "Sir" or "Dame"...or the equivalent in whatever language went with someone's persona.  The reasoning behind this is that the current titles
> of "Master", "Mistress" are not period titles for peerages.  Also, all peers would be asked to swear fealty and wear the chain denoting that fealty.  Otherwise, all regalia specific to a particular
> Order would remain the same.
>
> Members of the SCA were asked to vote on this idea.  However, unfortunately, the members of the Chivalry seemed to fear that the rest of us were trying to usurp their Order, and were quite vocally
> opposed to the change.  Thus, the only thing to emerge from this is that female Laurels and Pelicans now may be referred to as "Dame".  It is my hope that, at some point, this will be again
> considered.

YO, guilty as charged!  I use in on purpose, to emphasize my equality with the Knights.

> Aleska:  > Another aspect of the multiple knighthoods with objective criteria is that each knighthood is held to be fully equal. A knight who earned their rank in arts and sciences by cooking,
> embroidery,
> > or blacksmithing is called Sir or Dame the same way than the person who won their rank in Live Steel combat, or in archery, or in service to the group by holding administrative officers
> > position.

What are "objective criteria" for arts?  That's nice in theory, but that makes Arts advancement difficult, as Kiri has said, it's too subjective.  The one time I entered an Adrian arts competition,
using a period recipe, they said my documentation was incomplete. What part of "primary source" didn't these people understand?   I think that day's winner was one of the household heads.

If I get over it and play again, it will be with the Heralds.  I won't wear blue unless Sir Nigel says it's okay though.  Lord Fleur-de-Lys is an old buddy, he used to be the Baronial herald in Calafia
[San Diego], we worked on heraldry together for simply years and years.  I was happy to hear about his knighting and we not only came down for it, but I made his blue belt for him.  SCA people can
'cross the line' peacefully sometimes!

Selene