[Sca-cooks] Kishka etc

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>>>>>Kishka is guts.

Right!

>>>>>>>How you stuff them is up to you.

Probably so,  (probably in the larger human population)  but it has been my
experience that Jewish Kishka is only stuffed with a mixture of flour / water
/ grated onion & carrot / salt & pepper.

>
> >>>>>>>General Ashkanazik (sorry if I mangle the spelling, but everybody
> seems
> to spell it differently anyway)

No Prob. When you spell something in transliteration you can spell it any
blessed way you want!!! (so sez I)

 >>>>>>>After doing a quick web search, I read that "kishka" is what you stuff
> "derma" with. I don't really buy this.

Why? Maybe the author is refering to derma as the skin or casing  and kishka
as the stuff you stuff the Kishka (the ingredients) with.  Well, for some
perverted reason I understand what he is trying to say.


>>>>>>>Could the Jewish tradition be that kishka is a) guts, and b) any fresh
sausage,

Kishka is Yiddish for guts and also a flour / onion / carrot/ schmaltz based
dish.  These days the intestine has been switched to plastic casing afaik.

>>>>>>>>> opposed to, say any of a number of kinds of cured or dried
> sausages like Kosher salami, say. Qualifying "derma" as a subset of both a)
> and b) would then make some sense.
>

Maybe, but if you ask for kishka in a Jewish deli you are going to get the
flour based dish not the meat. And if you want salami or the like you'd have
to ask for salami or balogna or whatever.,

>>>>>>>>  When the word pudding is mentioned, I can't help but think of Jell-o
> pudding. So what is  See, "pudding" is an English
(IIRC) word meaning "gut".

REALLY?????? Man! My Jell-o mental image is fighting back! (J-E-L-L-L- O!!)


 >>>>>>> originally stuffed into guts (puddings) for boiling,
> later in cloths, such as a Christmas plum pudding, obviously still
> retaining the name even after the gut was abandoned


Wow!!! Now the term *pudding* (in the British context) is finially making
sense after all these years! Combine my mental images of Jello and seeing the
Brits serve anything for dessert (in movies) and I was one totally confused
chick!
THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION, NOW it makes sense to me!!!



>>>>>>Okay, I'll answer your question and yell at you _later_. ;-)

oh-oh!!  I'm in trouble now!!!!!

>>>>>> sausage appears in, I believe, at least one medieval Arabic
> source, and chicken is a major ingredient in several white pudding recipes
> at least as far back as the 17th century, perhaps earlier. ....SNIP....>
> However, what I said, and what you quote above, was the phrase, "WHILE meat
> sausages", not "white meat".


But Master! the Eye doctor didn't say I needed new glasses!! (the
neurosurgeon on the other hand......)

Humbly,
Phillipa