[Sca-cooks] Corn Bread

[Elaine Koogler]

Well, I guess you've never met me.  Or any number of people who either hail from the South and/or who like dishes like chili with their cornbread.  I eat it whenever I can get it or have time to make it.  I also make
spoonbread, which is a similar "critter" except that it has a consistency closer to a stiff pudding!

I have seen very late period recipes for sweet potatoes in England, and I have heard that there are recipes in late period from Italy, though I'm not personally acquainted with them.  I also understand that there are
some translation projects under way that could prove that potatoes were known in Germany in late period.  However, I have never seen or heard of any information about corn.  In fact, I seem to recall a discussion on
this list some time ago about how corn is still regarded as food for livestock in parts of Europe!

Kiri

Angus wrote:

> I have no info of cornbread save that I don't know a single person who eat it.  I never look for it when shopping.
> As an example of availability vs cooking there's rhubarbs.  They were introduced in Sweden in early 17th century but only used for medicinal purposes.  Kitchen use of rhubarbs didn't kick in until mid 19th century.
>
> Rice was grown in Italy in the 13th century and fresh fish would have been plenty along the coasts but I can't recall seeing a period recipe for nigiri.  Anyone who has?
>
> /Angus, who often use fresh horseradish instead of wasabi paste.
>
> --- lilinah at earthlink.net
> > wrote:
> >Someone on our Kingdom list is arguing that old line: if they had
> >ingredient X in period, they must have had cooked dish Y. In this
> >case, the discussion is centering around...
> >
> >Cornbread
> >
> >My experiences in Europe indicate that even today, corn, i.e., maize,
> >is not a commonly eaten food. This person is arguing that since
> >Renaissance Europeans made bread, they must have made cornbread once
> >they discovered corn.
> >
> >I think that this is not a logical argument. Can anyone point out the
> >pros or cons of this discussion? If i'm wrong, i'm willing to admit
> >it.
> >
> >Another person says that since they have a late period Spanish
> >persona, they can freely eat tomatoes, potatoes, and corn.
> >
> >IIRC, there is some evidence in the 16th c. for tomatoes cooked as a
> >vegetable in Italy (and maybe Spain), and sweet potatoes (but not
> >*white* potatoes) eaten in Spain in period. However, i don't recall
> >maize coming up on this list as a food eaten in Spain or other parts
> >of Europe in the 16th c.
> >
> >I welcome all information - particularly about corn, i.e., maize.
> >
> >Anahita
> >
> >The discussion has also been about chocolate and stew, which someone
> >in the thread insisted that just because there's no evidence, it's so
> >simple and obvious, it must have been eaten since humans first
> >figured out how to cook in pots (not a quote).
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