SC - Chinese measurements was Cow's Milk Buns

[Elaine Koogler]

Great!  You now have the ingredients for haggis, you lucky man!!

Kiri

"Craig Jones." wrote:

> Thanks,
>
> That was me.  I now have the info several times.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Drake.
>
> ps.  A local butcher rang me yesterday and said he could get Lamb's Plucks for
> about $US7 ea.  A Puck is the Heart, Lungs, & Liver joined by the viscera.
> There are several recipes I want to try in ASFTQ that contain lungs as an
> ingredient.  I'm still yet to find testers though...
>
> >I'm having one of those days.  I just found the posts about which
> >someone enquired, and now I can't remember who just asked.  Oh well.
> >Here are the answers.
> >
> >In a post titled "SC-Cow's Milk Buns" 3/20/2001:
> >
> >Drakey wrote:
> > Also, does anyone know what the following
> >measurements are: chin, sheng, liang?
> >
> >I've been ok when all the measurements are the same
> >(so I can do things by proportions) but am stumpted
> >when the measurements are all separate.  I combed
> > 'A Soup for the Qan' with no luck.
> >
> >Adamantius responded:
> >
> >Comb to page 172 of "A Soup for the Qan", where you will see the
> >following translator's note:
> >
> >"Note on Weights and Measures. In the translation below we have made no
> >attempt to translate Chinese weights and measures. The following
> >equivalents must be borne in mind when interpreting the recipes: a
> >ch'ien is today 3.12 g or .011 oz and is one-tenth of a liang. Sixteen
> >liang make a chin (about 500 g). A sheng is today 31.5 cu in (slightly
> >less in the fourteenth century), and is comprised of 10 ho (each 3.17 cu
> >
> >in). Ten sheng make a tou. Units of length relevant to the translation
> >are the ts'un, which is 33 mm and the ch'ih, ten ts'un, or about a third
> >
> >of a meter."
> >
> >It looks to me that there may be a typo in ASFTQ: if "g" = grams, then a
> >
> >ch'ien of 3.12 grams would be roughly 0.11 oz, not .011 oz, and a liang
> >would be roughly equivalent to an ounce, while a chin would equal
> >approximately a pound. Unless "g" is supposed to denote "grains", as
> >Cariadoc suggested may be the case, in which case you're on your own,
> >boyo. It's late here... .
> >
> >As for the sheng, you could make one for dry measure out of cardboard,
> >and maybe waxed for wet use, essentially a box with no top, 3" x 3"
> >x3.5", or, let's see... 7.6 x 7.6 x 9 cm, in case it matters.
> >
> >I know... I could swear... I just know, somewhere, there is, or was, on
> >the Web, a Table of Weights and Measures with sections on ancient
> >Chinese, Indian, etc., weights and measures, not to mention medieval and
> >
> >early modern European ones. Of course, now I can't find it.
> >
> >Bear responded with:
> >
> >The following are from "How Many?  A Dictionary of Units of Measurement"
> >
> >webbed at:
> >
> >http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/index.html
> >
> >
> >sheng
> >a traditional unit of liquid volume in China. Like the Indian seer (see
> >above), the sheng is a little more than a liter; 1.035 liter (1.094 U.S.
> >
> >quart) is one quoted equivalent.
> >
> >chin
> >one of several spellings in English for the jin, a traditional Chinese
> >weight unit.
> >
> >jin
> >a traditional unit of weight in China, comparable to the English pound.
> >During the European colonial era the jin was identified with the catty,
> >a
> >Malay unit widely used in various forms throughout East and Southeast
> >Asia.
> >Like the catty, the jin was then equal to 1 1/3 pounds or 604.79 grams.
> >Traditionally, it was divided into 16 liang. In modern China, however,
> >the
> >jin has been identified as a metric unit equal to exactly 500 grams
> >(1.1023
> >pounds), and it is divided into 10 liang. The spellings chin and gin
> >also
> >have been used for this unit.
> >
> >liang
> >a traditional Chinese weight unit. During the European colonial period
> >the
> >liang was equal to 1/16 catty, 1/12 pound, or about 37.8 grams; this
> >made
> >it the same as a tael. In modern China, the liang equals 1/10 jin or 10
> >qian;
> >this is exactly 50 grams (1.7637 ounces).
> >
> >-=-=-=-=-
> >
> >Yours in service, Selene
> >
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