FW:[Sca-cooks] OOP- The Rochester "Garbage Plate" (urp!)

[A. F. Murphy]

Adamantius had a question about the "garbage plate" in Rochester,
mentioning that his research suggested that local  students would be the
experts on it. Now, it happens that my own brother was once a student in
Rochester, so I forwarded the question for his expert opinion, which
follows.


> [Original Message]
>
> Subject: Re: FW: [Sca-cooks] OOP- The Rochester "Garbage Plate" (urp!)
>
>    Nick's is (was 20 years ago) located in the shell of the old Rochester
> railroad station. The original Garbage Plate was at one time named as
such
> on the menu, but then the department of health told Nick he couldn't call
> it that, though customers continued to. It consisted of 2 hot dogs, hash
> browns (all of which were either under cooked or burned, none just
right),
> and baked beans in a very thick brown sugar base, which were served
> refrigerated. I  suppose you _could_ ask them to throw the beans on the
> grill, making them pseudo refried, but... Another Rochester quirk is that
> you have a choice between "red hots" which most of the country would
> recognize as skinless hot dogs, or "white hots" which are natural casing
> white sausages in the size and shape of hot dogs. You could instead order
a
> cheeseburger garbage plate which substituted 2 greasy cheeseburgers for
the
> hot dogs, or you could substitute macaroni salad that tasted like library
> paste for the baked beans. I never heard of chicken, but it's possible,
> Rochester having its own tradition for "birds" as well.
>    If interested in birds, they are: half a barbecued chicken, served on
a
> bed of a slice of white bread and macaroni salad (not tasting like paste)
> with a barbecue sauce similar to commercial tomato based sauces, but with
> hot sauce and crushed peppers added. The bird is dunked in the sauce and
> shaken vigorously if wanted mild, slightly for hot, up to placing the
> chicken straight on the plate and ladling sauce over it for the hottest.
>    Rochester wings are served in this same doctored tomato based style of
> sauce. The hot sauce used for these, as well as for Buffalo wings is
> Frank's Original RedHot sauce. Buffalo wings are deep fried, and shaken
in
> a container with sauce made of Frank's RedHot, melted butter, and celery
> salt, the latter being the ingredient left out by 90% of those who
attempt
> them. And the blue cheese dressing is intended for the celery and carrot
> sticks, not for the wings, though many like dipping the wings in it.
>
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Philip & Susan Troy <troy at asan.com>
> > >
> > > Subject: [Sca-cooks] OOP- The Rochester "Garbage Plate" (urp!)
> > >
> > >
> > > recalled the garbage plate being described as a Rochester specialty
> > > consisting of a plate full of macaroni salad, I coulda sworn a mentoin
> > > of baked beans was made, and various other items, all topped with
chili.
> > > Was that approximately correct?
> > >
> > > Interestingly enough, if you do a web search for the phrase "garbage
> > > plate", you get a lot of hits, all suggesting it's pretty much agreed
> > > that the garbage plate originates at Nick Tahou Hots, that it is the
> > > preferred cuisine of college students at 3AM on a Friday or Saturday
> > > evening, and most authorities seem to agree on components consisting
of
> > > cubed-style home fried potatoes, macaroni salad, a meat "entree" such
as
> > > a burger, chicken, hot dog[s] or, if it's the right time of morning,
> > > since this place was, until recently open 24 hours, fried eggs, all
> > > topped with a beanless chili "sauce", similar, I suppose, to the chili
> > > that goes on top of a chili dog. Official theory is that it all then
> > > gets a garnish of a sprinkle of hot sauce and chopped onion, but I
> > > gather that in practice this gets added, and then followed by
commercial
> > > ketchup, and lots of it.
> > >
> > > So, for those who have actually encountered this, a question or two,
or
> > > three:
> > >
> > > At least one alleged authority refers to refried beans being on the
> > > plate. True or false?
> > >
> > > The lady on this list mentioned, I thought, baked beans, but I can't
> > > find any mention of this being an orthodox or a heretical practice.
> > > Comment? Retraction? Refutation of any no-account ignoramuses with
> > > websites who would fail to mention the baked beans?
> > >
> > > If chicken is included, how is it cooked?
> > >
> > > And finally, what kind of hot sauce is favored? Are we talking about
the
> > > usual pseudo-Tobasco of red chilies pureed in vinegar and aged, often
> > > with a gum emulsifier to keep it from settling (which, to be brutally
> > > honest, is what the hot sauce used for Buffalo wings tends to be)?
> > >
> > > My thanks for any help in this important research!
> > >
> > > Adamantius
> > > --
> > > Phil & Susan Troy
> > >
> > > troy at asan.com
> > >
> > > "It was so blatant that Roger threw at him.  Clemens gets away with
> > > things that get other people thrown out of games.  As long as they
> > > let him get away with it, it's going  to continue." -- Joe Torre, 9/98
> > >
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