At 01:17 PM 9/2/2001 -0600, you wrote: >yeah, but where is "here?" I'm not familiar with the name of your >shire.... Here, there, wherever :-) In my case, it's the greater Chicagoland, Illinois :-) Muiredach mac Loloig Rokkehealden Shire aka Nicolas Steenhout "You must deal with me as I think of myself" J. Hockenberry