Have received confirmation from Finnebhir (who has not been on the list for a bit due to an attack of Real Life) that the cakey things baked in the mini Bundt pans are indeed her poundcakes. Gorgeous Muiredach the Odd Clan of Odds Shire of Forth Castle, Meridies mka Nicolas Steenhout "You must deal with me as I think of myself" J. Hockenberry