[Sca-cooks] OT politics and respect

[Elaine Koogler]

Well, I guess you could do what a lot of folks around here do.  If you find
yourself in a group that won't let you do anything, find another group to
play with.  We have a couple of folks who are going to play with our Barony
because they moved into a very large (read..almost large enough to be a
Kingdom all by themselves) Barony nearby and found that they were being
ignored by all of the cliques in the group.  They came to a Dance Symposium
here in Dun Carraig, really liked what they saw and are now going to be part
of our group.

Kiri
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bethra Spicewell" <christina_elisabeth at yahoo.com>
To: <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:54 PM
Subject: [Sca-cooks] OT politics and respect


> Kiriel wrote: "Ultimately whether you are involved in politics or not,
> you end up being given the respect you earn."
>
>   Yes, but how do you earn it, when the power group refuses to
> acknowledge that you exist?
>   One can offer to cook, autocrat, help out, or what have you; only to
> be ignored, told flat out that "..we can handle it" (no thanks, anyhow)
> or to be coddled along, planning and working, only to be told several
> weeks later that "well, so-and-so has [always been in charge] or [been
> working on that] and they've already got it all set up, so..."
>   Local politics being what they can be, it can be impossible to be
> part of a group that's wound too tight, and if it's too far to go to
> play with others, except on a once or twice a year basis, what is one
> to do?
>   I think *that's* the kind of politics that causes people to leave.
> When one gets involved in politics whether they want to or not, the
> alternatives are to force yourself on those who don't want *you* (or
> anyone else they don't know) to play with *them*, or to just give it up
> and go away.
>   Fortunately, this isn't a reflection of my own local group, although
> they -can- be a bit stuffy <g>, but I saw this happen to some
> co-workers, in a different area, several years ago.  They don't pay or
> play anymore :-(
> If I had joined there and then, I don't think I'D be playing now
> either. (Thank goodness for layoffs ;-p )
>
> Bethra
>
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