[Sca-cooks] need help identify these items
jenne at fiedlerfamily.net
jenne at fiedlerfamily.net
Thu Jul 18 11:17:51 PDT 2002
> On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, at 07:33 PM, Jones, Craig wrote:
> >> A delicate washing ball- take three ounces of Orace
> > I'd agree with Phlip, that'll be Orris Root.
> Might also be orage, but I suspect you're right with orris root.
It's orris, it shows up in a lot of recipes like that. (Spinach-like
veggies wouldn't work very well in the context). Furthermore, OED lists
orace as an obsolete spelling for orris.
> >> halfe an ounce of Cypres,
> > I'd try asking Cindy Renfrow on that one.
> I've conversed with Cindy on this one ("cypres" is called for in a lot
> of recipes), and the record is far from clear. One possibility (more
> likely in cooking than in soapmaking) is that it's sugar. Cyprus (the
> island) was a major source for sugar. Sweet recipes often indicated
> this in their name (i.e. "Vyande Cypre" or some such), and "sugar of
> Cyprus" appears in many recipes. It also appears that the phrase "sugar
> of Cyprus" was shortened to "Cyprus" in at least one recipe.
However, Cypres or Chypre appears in a lot of contexts that indicate it's
supposed to be an aromatical thing. Chypre is a woody perfume that was at
one time based
I talked with someone who used to work in the perfume industry about it,
and I or we, I'm not sure, came up with a theory that it might have been
oak moss, or similar. I'll go chasing through my sources again and try to
reconstruct the line of logic.
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