[Sca-cooks] Feast Alternatives

[Elaine Koogler]

Sounds to me like it's about time for you guys to sit down and have a
heart-to-heart with your Kingdom Seneschal...and with the Royals.  If the
split on the profits is standardized in Kingdom Law, then there isn't a
problem.  We can even do something like doing the event with another
group...we did this with Bright Hills for Kingdom Twelfth Night.  In that
case, again specified by Law, the Kingdom took 50% of the profit, and our
two groups split the remaining 50%.  Since the take is a fairly large one
for Kingdom events, we usually have several groups bidding for them.  Our
only problem comes with the fact that not all groups have suitable sites,
particularly since the Crowns now all seem to want Coronation and Crown to
be camping events.

Kiri
----- Original Message -----
From: "Siegfried Heydrich" <baronsig at peganet.com>
To: <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Feast Alternatives


>     Hmmmm . . . y'all are lucky! One of the big problems we have is that
> people are NOT bidding events. The next Crown List (labor day weekend) is
> being hosted by a consortium of households, and all kingdom events after
> that are still open for bids. I get a bit twitchy when I see the mad
> scramble to find someone to do an event 3 months before the date . . .
>     Part of it is that when you write up your bid, you specify what
> percentage of the gate goes back to the kingdom. If you want to beggar
> yourselves, you're pretty much guaranteed the bid. Of course, that means
> your group kills themselves with nothing to show for it. OTOH, if you know
> you're the only bidder (and kingdom is getting down to the wire), you
stand
> to rake it in bigtime! While I don't think that groups should regard
kingdom
> events as great money making opportunities, if they want / need something
> with a large price tag, that was their traditional way of being able to
> raise funds.
>     We always use the same camp for crown lists & coronations, and the
> kingdom has a standing deposit there. They front a rather niggardly amount
> for feast, and that's pretty much it. After that, the group is on its own.
> If they want to serve more than the mandated 150, it comes out of their
> pockets. At this point, the handbook also says they should serve something
> on arrival night, and breakfast, but lunches are optional.
>     We're trying to work an arrangement that would allow the tavern to
> handle those meals, and free up the entire feast budget for the feast
> itself. When I was still doing kingdom feasts, about 25% of my total
budget
> went to non-feast meals. This should take a lot of the pressure off the
> feastcrat, we hope. Not just on the budget, but also having to divert time
&
> attention away from the feast itself to do the other meals.
>     We're also hoping that having that much more to work with will allow
the
> feastcrat to serve a greater number of people, too. The hall we use is
> HUGE - it will seat twice the number normally served very comfortably. We
> also used to use a sliding pre-registration discount, but that seems to
have
> fallen by the wayside, so there's no incentive whatsoever to make
> reservations. The ones who do reserve for feast tend to be groups who want
> to make sure there's seating for all - my house has been known to reserve
> 20+ at a time . . .
>
>     Sieggy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> >What happens here is that interested groups put in bids for Kingdom level
> >events.  The group with the best bid, determined mainly by the Crowns,
but
> >with input from a Kingdom event bid person, gets the event.  Usually the
> >group fronts all of the money for the event, but if they don't have
enough,
> >the Kingdom will kick in with whatever is needed.  the feast can be as
> large
> >or small as desired by the group, based on projected attendance.  People
> are
> >beginning to learn that if they don't make reservations for the feast
> early,
> >they probably won't get on-board.  And our event fees are structured to
> >encourage on-board reservations...prices are given both for a reservation
> >including the feast (on-board) and for offboard (not including the
feast).
> >
> >Profits are divided 50-50 by the hosting group and the Kingdom.  However,
> if
> >a loss is incurred, the hosting group eats it.  But it is a very rare
thing
> >that a Kingdom level event will lose money.  Even here in Dun Carraig,
> where
> >we normally get very small attendance for local events, we do very well
on
> >Kingdom events.  Even this past Kingdom Twelfth Night, when a snow storm
> >prevented most of the south from attending, we still made a profit!
> >
> >Kiri
>
>
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