[Sca-cooks] A Question of Spit Roasting....

[johnna holloway]

He is citing Dictionary of American English
which I don't have. It would be interesting to also
run it through DARE. Dictionary of American Regional
English.
Thanks for checking the Spanish sources.

Johnnae llyn Lewis  Johnna Holloway

Robin Carroll-Mann wrote:

> On 6 Apr 2003, at 21:57, johnna holloway wrote:
>
> > OED may say 1661 but the word origin is
> > Spanish barbacoa, of Arawak //Taino origin.
> > The interesting question would be what do the
> > Spanish sources say or what and when did the
> > term appear in print in Spanish sources?
>
> The Spanish Royal Academy has a database of historical word usage on their
> website.  You can search for a word in hundreds of historical documents and literary
> works, and you can limit the search by date.  I searched for occurences of
> "barbacoa" prior to 1550, and got hits in two different documents.  One is "The
> Natural and General History of the Indies" by Gonzalez de Oviedo (1535), and the
> other was the memoirs of Fray Toribio de Benavente.  There are references to the
> Indians using the "barbacoa" to roast meat.
> http://www.rae.es
>
> It's late; I'll see about posting some translations tomorrow.
>
> > John Mariani says that the word was in use
> > in the America prior to that and that it first
> > appeared in prinmt here in 1655.
>
> Where is "here"?
>
> Brighid ni Chiarain *** mka Robin Carroll-Mann