[Sca-cooks] Source information for the make-up of removes?
Alex Clark
alexbclark at pennswoods.net
Sat Feb 21 07:27:18 PST 2004
At 08:44 PM 2/21/2004 +1000, Marion wrote:
>What I actually need help here with is trying to explain to a friend (a
>member of a Viking/dark ages group that does very little food research) why
>the idea of separate "soup/appertiser"; "main" and "dessert" courses is a
>modern invention.
>
>I'm trying to explain that a standard medieval remove would consist of a
>variety of dishes meant to bolster the eaters "humours"
>
>Am I totally off the beam on this? Can anyone flip me a well worded
>explantion (including source) that I can pass one?
You are sort of right to the extent that meals weren't organized in the
same ways as in modern America. There is some documentation for menus, but
I don't know if there is any for the dark ages and the viking era.
Some of the sources for feast menus used or recommended in period are:
Hieatt, Constance and Sharon Butler. _Curye on Inglysch_. New York, 1985.
_Two Fifteenth-Century Cookery Books_.
http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/c/cme/cme-idx?type=HTML&rgn=TEI.2&byte=3356093
Le Menagier de Paris. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/menagier/
These are from the 14th and 15th centuries. Some of the general rules or
tendencies of these menus are:
- A wide variety of foods can be served in one course, or in one platter
(/assiette/).
- Some types of foods, such as tarts, fritters, fried slices, cream of
almonds, fruits, and nuts, tend to appear mainly in later courses.
- The English often listed a pottage (e. g. porridge or thick stew) at
the beginning of each course, and approximately dessert-like foods at the
end of the course.
The word dessert was in use, at least in French (/desserte/), but it didn't
quite mean what we mean by it -- according to le Menagier, foods served for
dessert included frumenty and venison.
Henry of Maldon/Alex Clark
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