[Sca-cooks] Spices was licorice,

[vicki shaw]

but saffron is the stamen (or is it the pistil) or whatever is the male part
of the flower which pulled from the flower, and then it is dried until it
looks like a filament......so that would almost make it an herb, but if one
follows the other rule about spices, it would be a spice because it is not
native to america or europe.....so I agree with Adamantius, no sense getting
hung up on labels....or is it lables?
[pistil sounds more male than stamen]; shame on me, I should know this.  I
could avoid making a fool of myself by pulling out my spice book and getting
it from the horse's mouth...indeed I WILL, FORTHWITH...

OKAY,  the flower is a crocus and the part harvested is the stigma and part
of the style.....

Angharad ferch Iorwerth; MKA Vicki Shaw
Barony Beyond the Mountain
East Kingdom
vhsjvs at gis.net

www.omygoddess.biz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elaine Koogler" <ekoogler1 at comcast.net>
To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Spices was licorice,


Given that I was taught (can't remember by whom....) that an herb is one
where we use the leaves, etc., and a spice is one where we use the
seeds, bark, nut, etc., I have always considered saffron a spice.

Kiri

Laura C. Minnick wrote:

> At 01:52 PM 2/23/2004, you wrote:
>
>> Also sprach Ron Carnegie:
>>
>>> Greetings all,
>>>
>>> Unless I am greatly mistaken I think you will find that NO spice is
>>> grown
>>> in Europe. (Unless in a hothouse).
>>>
>>> To add to the confusion however, it appears that one may "spice" (the
>>> verb) with an herb and not just spices!
>>
>>
>> Of course, it's possible to worry too much about narrow-focus
>> definitions. We're looking at a case of intersecting but incongruent
>> sets. By that definition, cayenne pepper or other chili powders are,
>> arguably, not a spice, to which I simply say, hogwash, and then
>> there's also the question of how to classify all the non-herbaceous
>> "herbs".
>>
>> Adamantius
>
>
> Where might this put saffron? It is my understanding that it was grown
> in England through the High Middle Ages. Is saffron an herb, or a spice?
>
> 'Lainie
>
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