[Sca-cooks] Fwd: Sca-cooks Digest, Vol 8, Issue 94/Period Critters, sheep pigs chickens

[Marcus Loidolt]

Well Phlip
For those of you interesed in Medieval Breeds of
various livestock I would send you to
Rarelivestock at yahoogroups.com
 and to 
medievalanimals at yahoogroups.com

I hope to get a webpage up in the future for more
animals, but that will have to wait til RL(reallife)
gets taken care of!!

ON KING JOHN and his english pigs....(!)
Fat pigs are more expensive than lean ones!! To a
medieval mind they are more desireable and provide a
greater variety of foodstuffs.
A lean pig is a bad sign!!
Only in the modern mind does leaness equal quality, in
either swine, or other animals!

The fat will survive winter, starvation and disease
easier than the lean without those reserves!

Johann
the portly!
Never trust a skinny cook!!


I know of only two breeds of swine still in existence
from the Middle ages. The Tamworth and Red Duroc are
two breeds of swine that are 'recreations of the old
breeds and of course the wild Eurasian boar is still
around! The Gloucester Old Spot one of the rarest of
European Domestic Swine was wiped out a year ago when
the last English herd was destroyed out of fear of
Hoof and Mouth, though the herd was over 25k from the
nearest infection and had already proved remarkably
hardy in resisting it in the 1930s!

As to Chickens getting along with the cock you already
have...? Well, Murray McMurray and Sandhill both have
a strain of Brahmas and Cochins that are quite laid
back.




--- sca-cooks-request at ansteorra.org wrote:
> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 01:18:59 -0600
> From: sca-cooks-request at ansteorra.org
> Subject: Sca-cooks Digest, Vol 8, Issue 94
> To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org

>    9. Re: More period critters- Re: [Sca-cooks] back
> to food was
>       PETA (Pixel, Goddess and Queen)
>   10. Re: Pig's head- was Re: [Sca-cooks] Blood
> Bread (UlfR)
>   11. Re: back to food was PETA (Pixel, Goddess and
> Queen)
>   12. Re: back to food was PETA (UlfR)
------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 01:02:36 -0600 (CST)
> From: "Pixel, Goddess and Queen"
> <pixel at hundred-acre-wood.com>
> Subject: Re: More period critters- Re: [Sca-cooks]
> back to food was
> 	PETA
> >
> > I suspect that the reason sheep never got bred up
> for fat was that they're
> > basicly designed to live on more marginal land, so
> that a breed which grows
> > and develops well on a strctly grass diet isn't
> likely to get as marbled,
> > as, say, pigs and cattle, which are confined and
> fed grains. I imagine that
> > the free range hogs in the MA were pretty lean,
> although I'm sure that there
> > were some confined and fattened, like the example
> in Platina.
> >
> > Johann- have you got any input or insight into
> these breeds? Maybe know of
> > breeders, or references you might share? Something
> like the Sand Hill
> > catalogue would be great- speaking of which, if I
> wanted to order a period
> > breed of chickens, what would you suggest, as easy
> keepers, not likely to
> > challenge that idiot rooster of mine, Cogburn, for
> dominance.
> >
> > Saint Phlip,
> > CoDoLDS
> 
> IIRC, there is a record of John ordering his men to
> go buy fat pigs with
> which to start the fire in the tunnel that
> eventually collapsed one of the
> towers of Rochester Castle. And ISTR (boy, I'm full
> of acronyms today)
> that he was asking for the cheap pigs, rather than
> the quality porkers, as
> the cheap ones would be fattier and thus would burn
> better.
> 
> I could be wrong, of course.
> 
> Margaret, who really ought to stop reading e-mail
> and go to bed already
> 
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