Perceptions - was, Re: [Sca-cooks] Tonight on the Food Network - Biblical Foods
Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius
adamantius.magister at verizon.net
Wed Mar 31 08:42:00 PST 2004
Also sprach Phlip:
>I recently asked a question on EK List in response to another one of those
>"But Medieval people didn't have the same tastes modern people did"
>statements, referencing several sites where they could find Medieval
>recipes, and asking them what, exactly, they were referring to when they
>thought of nasty Medieval food. The only responses I found were in two
>categories, despite my attempt to avoid personal preferences- personal
>preferences, including misunderstandings of what actually happened in some
>forms of food prep, and organ meats- which I feel would go under personal
>preferences. The telling point to me was someone's description of rotten
>fish made into a sauce- Adamantius came in and explained a bit about
>pickling and enzymatic actions.
Unfortunately, the lady to whom I was responding simply left the
discussion, I believe. I dunno; am I so scary? Or so rude? The
impression I get was that the lady's opinions on "fermented" fish
sauce were so emotionally ingrained that she didn't want to hear them
challenged, even to the point of being asked to consider them before
explaining her position more clearly.
She said, if I recall, that the fish sauce of the Romans and
Byzantines was, essentially, inherently nasty; I'm pretty sure she
used the dreaded f-word (which is the dreaded nine-letter f-word, not
that other one). She went on to quote a fairly basic recipe, and
suggested that she had some hard data supporting the idea that the
fish sauce as described in the recipe could conceivably be harmful to
the health of anyone using or consuming it in quantity.
I went through the recipe point by point, tried to determine an
approximate saline percentage of the total mass, and suggested that
the fish in fish sauce was actually fairly well-preserved by salt at
the very least, and possibly by lactic acid in some cases, and that
whatever else fish sauce may be, fermented or not, enzymatically
degraded/digested, certainly, but rotten, in the sense of
putrescence, definitely not.
I even did some of her homework _for_ her, pointing out that Anthimus
appeared not to advocate the use of liquamen, but did ask her for
more detail about her evidence to suggest liquamen was and is a
harmful product. Still waiting for that.
In the end, and this is the unfortunate part, the lady comes across
as just another fish-hating crybaby aiming their prejudices at the
unfamiliar. Which is not to suggest that there aren't people who
genuinely have given various fish dishes a fair shot and simply
dislike them; it's just that my experience has been that many of the
most vocal opponents of fish served at SCA events (in areas where
it's plentiful and cheap, anyway) are simply airing an unfortunate
side of their upbringing wherein Mommy and Daddy put them in charge
at an early stage. I suspect a large overlap between the "I don't eat
bait" and the "Vegetables are what food eats" contingents. Rest
assured that I have pages and pages of clinical evidence that proves
this, but I won't post it here... the dog ate it, and I left it in my
other toga. And the sun is in my eyes, and it took a bad hop off the
astroturf. But I'd post it if I could, believe me. It's in the mail...
Adamantius
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