[Sca-cooks] When DID the Renaissance End???(was:Nocino, period cordial or not

Denise Wolff scadian at hotmail.com
Tue Apr 26 19:19:31 PDT 2005


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Later period in the Americas.

Andrea (Grietje in nlhg)



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>From: "Laura C. Minnick" <lcm at jeffnet.org>
>Reply-To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
>To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
>Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] When DID the Renaissance End???(was:Nocino,period 
>cordial or not?
>Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:41:09 -0700
>
>At 03:50 PM 4/26/2005, you wrote:
>><much snippage>
>>
>>I have always heard that scholars considered the end of the Renaissance to
>>be the death of Rene Descarts in 1649.
>
>News to me. In my department the argument was 1601 (Elizabeth's death) to 
>1616 (Shakepeare's death). Of course if you went over to Romance Languages, 
>the argument was Spain vs French vs Italian, as the 'names' for the 
>literature of each were active in very different times.
>
>>  Shakespeare died in 1616.  Either
>>way, if the SCA period of study is supposed to cover the Middle Ages AND 
>>the
>>Renaissance, why are we cutting the time short?
>
>The governing documents have always said 1600. And why is it cut short? 
>Because you have to cut it somewhere. There will always be someone who 
>insists on a little later date. Heck, I came across someone the other day 
>who was insisting (for a variety of reasons) that the MA/Re didn't actually 
>end until the _American Civil War_!
>
>Two quotes from Corpora:
>
>The Society for Creative Anachronism, Inc. (SCA, Society) is a nonprofit 
>educational organization devoted to
>study of the Middle Ages and Renaissance. Most of its activities take place 
>in the context of a social structure
>adapted from the forms of the European Middle Ages, which allows 
>participants to take a first-hand look at
>various aspects of the life, culture and technology of the times under 
>study.
>
>and:
>
>The term .Society event. refers to tournaments, feasts, and other 
>activities whereby participants can display
>the results of their researches into the culture and technology of the 
>period in an environment which evokes
>the atmosphere of the pre-17th century European Middle Ages and 
>Renaissance.
>
>(There are of course others, but it is just as easy to go to 
>http://www.sca.org/docs/govdocs.pdf)
>
>Oddly, there isn't a beginning date, which goes against the '600-1600' I 
>was told where I started. And coming from a Kingdom where the 'in thing' is 
>Norse/Mongol-Steppes/Scythian/Nomadic tribes, I can tell you that the dates 
>aren't the only part of this that are cheerfully disregarded.
>
>If you really want to play later, there are English Civil War groups that 
>you might be interested in at:
>
>http://www.english-civil-war-society.org/public_html/index.html
>and
>http://www.sealedknot.org/
>
>Just so you know. :-)
>
>'Lainie
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