[Sca-cooks] When DID the Renaissance End???(was:Nocino, period cordial or not?

[Terry Decker]

The Eastern Empire/Western Empire split is commonly dated 364.  Alaric's 
third seige and the sack of Rome is 410.  The year commonly used to demark 
the move into the Dark Ages is 496 with the last Roman Emperor in the West. 
Depending on the source, the Middle Ages is usually defined as beginning in 
496 with the end of the Western Empire or 1000 (end of the Dark Ages) with 
the advance of feudalism.

Personally, I tend to go with 496.

Bear

> On the other end, there is _NO_ starting date, despite certain loud 
> mouths,
> notably in the Middle Kingdom, who state that our period starts in 600 CE. 
> I
> was interested in studying the period that was the transition from the
> Classical era into the MA, and, having done my studying, determined, for 
> my
> purposes, the MA began in the 470s due to two dates of significance- the
> Fall of Rome to Alaric and the transposition of the capitol of the Roman
> Empire from Rome, Italy to Byzantium/Constantinople, and the letters of 
> the
> physician, Anthimus. I do not care to discuss how many times I have been
> told by the loud and ignorant that I was "too early" or that I was "trying
> to push the starting dates back to Og, the caveman."
>
> Saint Phlip,