[Sca-cooks]minor correction in re Tofi

[Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius]

On Nov 24, 2005, at 11:01 PM, Carol Smith wrote:

> Minor point of fact, Master A:
>
>  Tofi, although once apprenticed to an Eastern (garb) Laurel, was  
> Baron of Barony-Marche Debatable Lands of AEthermark, not of he  
> East.  (Pittsburgh left the Eastrealm a LOOONG time ago...)
> His breakfast beer is downright chewy...

Sorry, cerebral eructation. If I'd thought about that for even a  
second I'd have remembered it.

A.

>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Phil Troy / G. Tacitus  
> Adamantius<mailto:adamantius.magister at verizon.net>
>   To: Cooks within the SCA<mailto:sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
>   Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 10:41 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Binge drinking
>
>
>
>   On Nov 24, 2005, at 10:00 AM, Terry Decker wrote:
>
>> No, in the Middle Ages beer (or small beer) constituted about one
>> third of the caloric intake in the beer drinking regions of Europe
>> according to some of the economic studies.  From a little more
>> modern study, in terms of vitamins and calories, a glass of beer is
>> roughly equivalent to a glass of milk except for the calcium.
>>
>> Bear
>
>   I can pretty much second the above. There's been some math done by
>   people like Baron Tofi (I forget the rest of his name, but he is or
>   was Baron of the Debatable Lands in the East, and a laurel for
>   brewing), and Master Ateno of Annun Ridge, working with the numbers
>   quoted from the various Assizes pertaining to ale. These show prices
>   and profit margins, and by some extrapolation they were able to
>   figure out how much malt goes into X amount of beer, and therefore
>   either how alcoholic it was, or at least its starting specific
>   gravity, even if the end result of the mash was dextrins rather than
>   fermentable sugars. We can get to a reasonably close  
> approximation of
>   the caloric values of ordinary, strong, and small ales. Things might
>   differ somewhat for German beers (they tended to be mashed a little
>   differently, I believe), but then the quotes about "liquid bread"  
> are
>   German...
>
>   Adamantius
>
>>
>>> A program I saw while in England recently mentioned that the
>>> working poor
>>> began to suffer vitamin deficiencies when the tee-totalers and tea
>>> drinkers
>>> discouraged them drinking their normal ration of beer.  I've
>>> certainly seen
>>> beer referred to as "liquid bread".
>>>
>>> Am I out in the fantasy dark ages?
>>>
>>> Regina
>>
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"S'ils n'ont pas de pain, vous fait-on dire, qu'ils  mangent de la  
brioche!" / "If there's no bread to be had, one has to say, let them  
eat cake!"
     -- attributed to an unnamed noblewoman by Jean-Jacques Rousseau,  
"Confessions", 1782

"Why don't they get new jobs if they're unhappy -- or go on Prozac?"
     -- Susan Sheybani, assistant to Bush campaign spokesman Terry  
Holt, 07/29/04