At 14:17 -0500 2005-09-07, Amy Cox wrote: > Okay so they're not period (or are they?) but I'm curious how many > SCAdians use them at camp. In "Eenen seer schoonen ende excellenten Cocboeck" 1593 the Dutch word 'oven' refers to a pan with vertical sides and a hollow lid, placed on a grate above the fire and with coals put into the lid. Thorvald