[Sca-cooks] OT/semi short/?

John Kemker john at kemker.org
Fri Aug 11 15:55:20 PDT 2006

otsisto wrote:
> Why is it that some people feel that they must have others stop a topic
> instead of using the delete button? A topic on cooking can be discussed at
> the same time as a rare few OTs. As long as people remember to change the
> subject line and remember that they do not have to read all the mail, things
> should be fine.
> For those that do not know how to bulk delete,
> If you have your email set so that the subject is grouped together you
> should get the subject that you want deleted all together. click on the top
> or bottom of the list of the subject to be deleted. Hold the shift key down
> and click on the other end of the subject list. Click on delete.
>  "but in the spirit of drowning out the socio-political grandstanding ;)
> I'll do what I can here..."
> Though this is not a good example but I can't find the one that made the
> comment on First Amendment rights, it is comments similar to this that make
> me wonder where/what the problem is.
> Lyse
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Please allow me, as the one who first posted about "not meaning to step
on your First Amendment rights," to explain why the "bulk delete" and
other mechanisms are inadequate and inappropriate.

In order to engage in "bulk delete" or filters, my email server (run by
myself, not by Yahoo, Google/Gmail, Microsoft's Hotmail or other
commercial entity) must first download all the email from the mail
exchange (MX) host, chewing up inbound bandwidth on my DSL line.  It
then has to be downloaded by my client, chewing up CPU and I/O resources
on my email server as well as my PC.  Then, my client has to sift
through the content and headers, determining what is to be filtered and
what is not to be filtered.

This takes up time and resources.  When I subscribe to a list with a
specific topic, I expect to receive occasional off-topic email, but the
bulk I expect to be related to the topic, at least marginally.  When an
off-topic thread becomes list-consuming, I then must take time and
resources to deal with it, whether it is by "bulk-deleting" it or via a

As far as First Amendment rights, please remember, the First Amendment
only applies to the government, not to individuals.  You may *not* come
in my house and say anything you wish.  Especially if I deem it vulgar
or inappropriate for my children or offensive to my own sensibilities.

Asking that we keep the discussions on-topic and about cooking is
appropriate, as Papa Gunthar and the list are *not* the government, he
is a private entity and the list under his control.  We are in his house
by invitation.  We have responsibilities as guests to not abuse our
host's good will.


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