[Sca-cooks] Lenten ideas for non Christians...

Marcus Loidolt mjloidolt at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 18 19:38:41 PST 2006


Benedicte, 
  Yes, the eastern rite may consume such seafood as mentioned...on Sundays, please note that this is not a reprieve granted for the weak, but rather an understanding of the nature of the Day of Resurrection, which every Sunday is. 
  What would/could a non Christian do as a devotion for Lent? Well, every religion has it's own prayer and meditational cycle...enhance this with the point of encouraging and meditating on the concept of new life, redemption, change from death to life, dark to light, bad to good, good to better, ect...The core concept is change and our being prepared for it. What to do? Give alms, care for the poor, encourage new growth for the benefit of others, heal old wounds, repair damaged relationships, ect...
   
  Maire, a 14th century Irish woman, you'd probably be spending additional time at church devotions, the way of the cross was just gaining popularity as a substitute for the dangerous pilgrimage to Jerusalem. Collecting and dispersing alms to the poor and indigent of the area, helping those who might already be doing so. You might also use this time to sort seeds and decide your poultry breeding stock, even if you lived in town you'd have a few hens...
   
  Johann


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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 08:12:43 -0700
From: "Sue Clemenger" 
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Lenten stufff, chickens, fish and
vegetarians...

Non-spined/invertebrates would include things like bivalves and crustaceans,
right? That would give the eastern-rite folks some fishy things, for sure!
I'm not actually sure if I'm going to do the
Sunday-as-a-reprieve-from-fasting or not. I'd like to see if I can do the
whole 40 days, since my persona is quite distinctly religious, enough so,
that I don't think I'd be fudging it for anything except dire need (illness
or some such).
--Maire, who finds it odd but amusing that *she* is deeply religious and
Sue, who pays the bills, is also deeply religious, but one is Catholic, and
the other, Wiccan 

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 08:17:39 -0700
From: "Sue Clemenger" 
So, Johann (or others), what are ways in which a person could include these
devotional practices in the Lenten season? I am not, modernly, Catholic (nor
even Christian), although I was raised in a variety of Protestant churches
(Mom being kind of a congregation-shopper). I would like to make this
second Lenten experiment for my persona a meaningful one as an exploration
into what she (Maire) would have felt and done, without, of course, being at
all disrespectful of those for whom this is an actual, living religious
experience. Besides the food/fasting, what else would I be likely to be
doing, as a 14th century woman during Lent?
--Maire

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From: "Marcus Loidolt" 
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Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:34 AM
Subject: [Sca-cooks] Re: Sca-cooks Digest, Vol 33, Issue 33


>
> Benedicte,
> Indeed, the devotional practices of alms-giving and prayer vigils were
not and are not a way to make excuse for the mishaps in the fasting regimes,
but were/are and intrical part of the whole Great Fast/Lent experience.
> There are many ways to observe Lent, the sick and the young and the aged
are always exempt from the fasting regime, but not from the core message of
the Great Fast, to prepare for the Resurrection by an increase in devotions
and depth of prayer and rightousness of life.
>
> "The Fasting and Abstainence stops the pollution, but it is by prayer
and good works that one cleans the house"
> St. Macrina the Great, 3rd. century Ceasarea in Cappadocia
>
> Johann




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