[Sca-cooks] RE: Chivalry and Supporting your Local Monarch

tom.vincent at yahoo.com tom.vincent at yahoo.com
Wed May 10 09:34:43 PDT 2006


People will frame things as 'courtesy', 'loyalty', 'honor' or 'duty' in order to get their way, when what it really means is:  Obey, do what I say, don't think independently, don't come to your own conclusions, diversity (unless I approve of it) is not allowed.
 
Duriel
 
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----- Original Message ----
From: grizly <grizly at mindspring.com>
To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 9:07:02 AM
Subject: RE: [Sca-cooks] RE: Chivalry and Supporting your Local Monarch


I think that I travel the same road you do on this topic, or at least one
that appears very similar.  The personal challenge I have it that there
isn't a modern applicable committment to actual, real laws of chivalry.
They get all mutated into what people think of as social politeness and call
it "chivalrous".  My statements of character traits are directed at the the
modern SCA transcription and redation of Laws of Chivarly from multiple
times and places into the cutsy version bandied about when gathered to
nay-say someone or something.

Actual codes of behavior and disciplines are good meat for the broth, as it
were.


niccolo difrancesco


-----Original Message-----
Actually, according to both the rules of fealty and bushido (funny how
warrior codes seem to mimic each other), an honorable man commits
dishonorable acts in accordance to his superior's orders. The blame of
the acts lies with the person who gave the order and not with the
hand that carries it out. Much like the "I was only following orders"
commentary in the Nuremburg trials.

<<<SNIP>>>

Unfortunately, the concepts you mention are considered more fuzzy than
the strict laws of the Chivalric Code. These were guideposts and objects
to guide a virtuous life by, but not enforced. The Code of Chivalry was
pretty unbreakable within its boundries.

Gunthar  >>>>>>>

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