[Sca-cooks] mysterious query

Elaine Koogler kiridono at gmail.com
Wed Jan 24 09:24:55 PST 2007

Actually, the concept of a parliament as a part of the English governmental
system goes back much earlier...I know that Queen Elizabeth makes reference
to asking Parliament on several occasions during her reign...in fact,
according to Wikipedia, the first elected parliament was summoned by Simon
de Montfort in 1265.  The election system was refined into creating boroughs
that were represented and resulted in the Model Parliament in 1295 of Edward
I.  Again, according to Wikipedia, Parliament had split into the two houses
as they currently exist by the time of Edward III.  So, it would appear that
Parliament in England has been around for a while.  The Welsh Parliament was
brought into that of England in the 16th century, and James I, successor to
Elizabeth, combined the Scottish Parliament in as well.


On 1/24/07, Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius <adamantius1 at verizon.net>
> On Jan 24, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Huette von Ahrens wrote:
> > So, I would say that Blackmore's use of "parliament" as the name of
> > a kind of gingerbread
> > cookie was very anachronistic, since 'Lorna Doone' was set two
> > hundred years earlier.
> Can you expand on this thought a little? I mean, there _was_ an
> English Parliament in the late seventeenth century (and it was
> certainly on everybody's mind during and after the English Civil
> War), as well as a Scottish Parliament until 1707 (and some sources
> pretty aggressively suggest a connection to Scotland for the cakes),
> and hadn't England already begun the early prototypes for that whole
> Triangular Trading thing (which made treacle more of a commodity), so
> what, specifically, makes you consider this an anachronism?
> I have no idea, myself, one way or the other, apart from the probable
> and comparative lack of recipes for cakes so designated in the time
> period in question. I was just curious as to your reasoning.
> Adamantius
> "S'ils n'ont pas de pain, vous fait-on dire, qu'ils  mangent de la
> brioche!" / "If there's no bread to be had, one has to say, let them
> eat cake!"
>     -- attributed to an unnamed noblewoman by Jean-Jacques Rousseau,
> "Confessions", 1782
> "Why don't they get new jobs if they're unhappy -- or go on Prozac?"
>     -- Susan Sheybani, assistant to Bush campaign spokesman Terry
> Holt, 07/29/04
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