[Sca-cooks] Horchata - Barley Water

Ana Valdés agora158 at gmail.com
Sat May 19 11:20:04 PDT 2007

Sorry, I believed chufas were a local name for almonds! I tried to buy
horchata in Alicante two weeks ago, in the end of April, and all
stores and bars turned me off saying: "it's too ealy, come back in
Summer". Alicante is in the Valencia province, south of Valencia.

On 5/19/07, Suey <lordhunt at gmail.com> wrote:
> Arianwen ferch Arthur wrote:
> > OK--I'm confused  the only mention of Rice is that
> > later someone substituted barley for the rice???
> >
> >
> >
> Yes, Valencians primary rice growers in Spain substituted rice for
> barley in the 15th C. temporarily thus indicating the evolution of the
> word horchata (meaning made from barley) to different context. Rice was
> cheaper than barley there. All peasants had rice. The Arabs introduced
> rice to Valencia and chufas which grow like weeds in the Mediterranean
> so chufas replaced rice.
> "Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius" wrote:
> >
> > What I'm wondering is whether the earthnut referred to above is the
> > modern groundnut, or what Americans call peanuts...
> >
> > */ <http://plants.ifas.ufl.edu/apiame.html>/
> > *
> No the scientific name for groundnut is Apios americana indicting that
> that is one of your products not one from the Mediterranean, peanut is
> Arachis hypogaea,  I am talking about what the Spanish call chufa,
> scientific name Cyperus esculentus translated into English as earthnut,
> earth almond or chufa. You will have to tell me which word is most
> commonly used in the USA.
> Susan Fox/Selene wrote
> > I thought modern orgeat was almond flavored.  The bottle in my kitchen
> > certainly is.  OH dear, I would be so easy to poison
> >
>     To me the chufa does not have an almond taste but perhaps someone
> can enlighten us as to why it can be called earth almond. The chufa is
> totally a Mediterranean plant not available in New World at least at the
> time when Spanish immigrants incorporated their recipes into American
> cooking so it stands to reason that the horchata - orgeat you know it is
> almond based as the trees did take root there.
>     As far as poisoning is concerned bitter almonds are only poisonous
> when raw and you know it when you eat one from they are so bitter you
> spit them out! If your orgeat is made with bitter almonds instead of
> sweet ones (non-poisonous) the drink is totally harmless as the lethal
> elements are eliminated by boiling.
> Ana Vald?s wrote:
> > In Spain the horchata (only served and made in Summer), is made with almonds.
> >
> >
>     No, as explained above horchata today in Spain is made with chufas
> not almonds. In Valencia horchata is available year round at kiosks on
> the street. Perhaps in other regions it is only available in the summer.
> Obviously horchata sales increase in summer as horchata is a thirst
> quencher.
>     An antedocte of this is that  food cravings during pregnancy were
> discussed a lot when I was pregnant in Madrid. One American friend sent
> her husband all over Madrid in the middle of the night in search of
> popcorn when it was a rarity there. Another friend who had several
> children in Valencia made husband take her to the park after lunch to
> buy her horchata to satisfy her craving, no matter what time of year it
> was!
> Suey
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