emilio_szabo at yahoo.it
Mon Nov 5 16:15:51 PST 2007
> Yeah, but they didn't call an herbal infusion "tea" either
But if I am not mistaken, _I_ may call an herbal infusion "tea" in
order to talk about herbal infusions and their use in the Middle Ages.
That's all I did and I hope that was in spirit with 21st century
> since both tea (Camellia sinensis) and the name for it
> didn't enter into Europe with any commonness until the
> mid-17th C. (...)
That's what I said something like 10 days ago.
> While i was looking for pre-17th C. recipes for herbal
> infusions - what the French and some English speakers
> now call "tisane" -
and what I have called "tea" (in case the word "tea" is not
used to refer to herbal infusions today, please let me know).
> i found that some of the recipes called the infusions
> "juice of nnn", where "nnn" is the main herbal ingredient.
> They were not called "tea",
But nobody ever said that they were called "tea" in
the Middle Ages...
Again: The original question in the questionaire was, if there
was tea in the Middle Ages. The answer was something like:
in a sense no: there was no Chinese-like tea (17th century),
but on the other hand, in a sense yes, there were forms of
herbal infusions (what we today also call "tea").
My concern was the statement, that the herbal infusions/"teas"
of the Middle Ages were called "tisane" in their time, a claim
that I find unsupported up to now.
> If Europeans were drinking hot herb infusions as general
> beverages prior to 1601, i can't find many mentions. From
> what i can tell, the majority of tisanes/ptisans and herbal
> beverages prior to 1601 were medicinal, and i haven't found
> a single consistent name for these herbal infusions - except,
> perhaps, "infusion".
So, no medieval five o'clock herb infusion ...
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