[Sca-cooks] Domesticated Animals was Re: Vegetarian & Vegans was Re: lethal drinks

Daniel & Elizabeth Phelps dephelps at embarqmail.com
Mon Jul 28 08:34:45 PDT 2008



Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.
Frank Zappa

To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like 
administering medicine to the dead.
Thomas Paine
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Margaret Rendell" <m_rendell at optusnet.com.au>
To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Domesticated Animals was Re: Vegetarian & Vegans 
was Re: lethal drinks


>
> (quick search of the library catalogue of the Uni I work at)
>
> "Roger Caras: A perfect harmony : the intertwining lives of animals and 
> humans throughout history"?
Yes, this is the one-thanks!
>
> Haven't read either of the first two, but Guns, Germs and Steel is great! 
> I thought Jared Diamond's argument in that book was probably going to lead 
> to debate - is anybody aware of any follow-ups/rebuttals of his 
> hypothesis?
I have been curious about that too-the book is pretty all-encompassingl I 
haven't read Collapse yet; the one he wrote about why civilizations fail. 
(Guns Germs and Steel is about why they succeed). Due to the way I read 
non-fiction, it's taking me a while to get through GGS, but it will be going 
with me on a road trip this week, so I'll get through some more of it. I 
would be interested to hear of responses to his work, too.
YIS,
Isabella
>
>
> Margaret/Emma
>
>
>> Daniel & Elizabeth Phelps <dephelps at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
> As a side note to this discussion, let me recommend a book called "Sacred
> Cow and Abominable Pig", I forget the author, but he talks about what 
> kinds
> of animals we do and do not eat and why. Roger Caras wrote a book on
> domesticated animals too, I forget the title but I believe it was 
> published
> within the last 10-15 years. I'm also working my way through "Guns, Germs,
> and Steel", by Jared Diamond, who among other issues addresses the
> domestication of animals and how it influenced the rise of civilzation. 
> All
> three of these books talk about this, really.
> My humble apologies to the good gentles on the cook's list who have 
> already
> read these books-if you haven't, please do so-they are utterly 
> fascinating.
> Bye for Now,
> YIS
> Isabella de la Gryffin
>
> Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.
> Frank Zappa
>
> To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like
> administering medicine to the dead.
> Thomas Paine
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ian Kusz" <sprucebranch at gmail.com>
> To: <grizly at mindspring.com>; "Cooks within the SCA"
> <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 7:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Vegetarian & Vegans was Re: lethal drinks
>
>
>> On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Nick Sasso <grizly at mindspring.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> < < < < Not to mention, I'd be happy if we switched to buffalo meat; 
>>> they
>>> don't have
>>> nearly the greenhouse gas problem as cows, they produce leaner meat, the
>>> hide is even more useful (can be used for leather or fur-rug type 
>>> stuff),
>>> and they're much easier on grasslands than cows (leave less devastation
>>> on
>>> the grass). > > > > > > >
>>>
>>> I'm following you, brother.  Other ungulates are possible as well.
>>>
>>> pacem et carne,
>>>  niccolo difrancesco
>>>
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>> :)  That's right! Remember; saving the planet can be delicious!
>>
>> -- 
>> Ian of Oertha
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