[Sca-cooks] Drugs and tobacco
Stefan li Rous
StefanliRous at austin.rr.com
Mon Mar 3 18:02:33 PST 2008
Suey asked:
<<< Conversing with friends we tried to remember when drugs and tobacco
entered Europe.
Today's conversation turned
into a void as we have no references between the 16th and the 19th C so
to speak, off hand. >>>
Did you check the Florilegium? :-)
smoking-msg (16K) 1/28/08 Period smoking of tobacco and
other plants.
http://www.florilegium.org/files/PERSONAL/smoking-msg.html
"Actually, in the Middle East, virtually every medical text from period
describes treatments that involve smoking herbs wrapped in silk or paper
(the pictures look remarkably like cigarettes). The most common
substance
in them, I believe, will get you in rather more trouble than hemp.
Comes from poppies."
Further back:
"I once got to smoke a herb called "Tussilinge" the person who let me
smoke it says the Romans smoke it. and this person has done a master's
thesis in history about herbal uses in the Antiquity."
"Sir Walter Raleigh popularized tobacco smoking in the Elizabethan
era. Before
the discovery of the New World, indeed throughout history, until the
first
third of this century, the most common smoking herbs were cannabis in
the
form of hashish and opium."
"> --Herodotus, in his "History of the Persian Wars", describes how the
> Scythians got high by inhaling the smoke of cannabis. They did
not use
> pipes, instead they would gather in a closed tent and throw leave,
> flowers, and seeds onto burning coals.--
Might want to add that Galen talks about how inhaling the smoke of
burning
hemp loosens the muscles, the sinews, and 'what flows'."
"1493. IIRC (from the Diario), Columbus brought tobacco back on the
first
voyage which ended early in 1493. Because we have a detailed
account, we
can fix a date for the initial arrival of tobacco in Europe. Of
course, we
have no idea what they did with the sample."
hemp-msg (48K) 1/20/08 Use of hemp in period. In ropes,
as an
intoxicant, clothing. Recipes.
http://www.florilegium.org/files/PLANTS/hemp-msg.html
There is even this in the coins-msg file:
"If you start examining some of the prices for things at the time,
you wind up
with some very interesting estimates. For example, the value for a
"Sword"
(whether new or used) seems to be about 3-5 shillings which is
something like
$75-$150. Not bad. However, a price I found for Tobacco, in (as I
recall)
the 1570s placed it at about the equivalent of $75 an ounce (or roughly
twenty times more than I pay currently). I'm not sure I love my pipe
THAT
much."
:-)
Stefan
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THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra
Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas
StefanliRous at austin.rr.com
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