[Sca-cooks] Translations - re Old French Ailliee or whatver

[David Walddon]

Suey,
For a summary check out http://www.windowslivetranslator.com. It is  
still in beta, but does an OK job and it also translates webpages on  
the fly. Way cool!
Below is what it did with the French text. Not bad, more than  
passable. It might not be up to Medieval or Renaissance French (or  
Italian or . . . ), but we should try!

I think it was also confused a bit since part of the message was in  
English (writes about) and the rest was in French.

French
Godefroy in his Dictionnaire de l'ancienne langue francaise et de  
tous ses dialectes du IXe au XVe siecles" writes about "Ailliee":

Cette sauce etait d'un usage si general que dans le treiziememe  
siecle, des marchands la criaient dans les rues comme on le fait  
encore de nos jours pour la moutarde.

English
Godefroy in his Dictionary of the old French language and all its  
dialects of IXe in XVe centuries " writes butt “Ailliee”:

This sauce was of a use so general that in the treiziememe century,  
of the merchants shouted it in the streets like one still nowadays  
does it for mustard.

Eduardo


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On May 1, 2008, at 9:05 PM, Suey wrote:

> Emilio wrote:
>> Godefroy, in his 'Dictionnaire de l'ancienne langue francaise et de
>>>> tous ses
>>>>
>>>> dialectes du IXe au XVe si?cles' writes about "Ailliee":
>>>>
>>>> "Cette sauce ?tait d'un usage si g?n?ral que dans le treizi?me
>>>> si?cle, des
>>>>
>>>> marchands la criaient dans les rues comme on le fait encore de nos
>>>> jours
>>>>
>>>> pour la moutarde."
>>
> and
>> look at the links provided:
>>
>>
>> http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k50634z/f192.table
> Johnnea added:
>> Opusculum de Saporibus is up on Thomas Gloning's website
>>  http://www.uni-giessen.de/gloning/tx/sapor.htm>
> SCA members may have the finest minds but as I recall there are no
> language requirements except English. As I have lived an international
> life I certainly do admire people who can speak many languages but  
> that
> does not mean that we all have had that privilege. I really feel  
> people
> who knowingly speak a foreign language are snobs when they do that  
> front
> of people they know do not speak that language. When I am the victim I
> feel hurt, irritated and rejected from their society if no one  
> thinks of
> providing me with the gist of the matter.
> My opinion is that I don't think either you Emilio or Johnnea  mean  
> that
> but to prevent non-participation from intelligent, knowledgeable  
> members
> who may not understand the language in which you are writing, a  
> summary,
> at least, in English is in order. You know they may know more than  
> we do
> on the subject!
> Suey
>
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