[Sca-cooks] Greek terracotta foufou stove
Mercy Neumark
mneumark at hotmail.com
Tue Mar 3 09:26:05 PST 2009
I've seen other types of pots in period and from what I can tell (my head hurts, so excuse me if I mis-inturpreted it) it sounds like a chaffing dish to me. I have some pictures someplace of them (unfortunately not scanned but I MIGHT be able to do that in a few days). The examples I have are English, around 13-14th or so century. Sort of Y shaped. Fuel efficient... eh, I guess as fuel efficient as cooking anything. Think of it as a fondue pot of the period really. And smoke would be coming out like crazy, depending on what you would use. So, it's not a comfortable way of cooking by any stretch of the imagination.
There is a block print of a chaffing dish (I believe) being used with a small pipkin on it. I need to find the pictures. I don't know if Mistress Huette has the scans still on her computer or not. I know it is on my pipkin documentation, which was LONG crashed. If I find it, I will put it up on my food blog.
But basically you could cook anything realititive to the size of your chaffing dish and pipkin. I've made both and I would think the pipkins were like a pint or so? Maybe I'm exaggerating a TEENY tiny bit? Like a small suace pan since it wasn't used for major cooking as far as I could tell (the chaffing dish). Just mostly like it's used for now... portable cooking in small areas.
I could be DEAD wrong, but that's what I gathered with my research as I was doing the pottery end.
The base is narrow, the "mouth" is wider.
I'm stopping now, because I could have misunderstood this entire question and I hate it when I boo-boo. I don't want to take up anyone's time. Hopefully I understood what the vessel was and got it.
--Baroness Asakura no Mashi (Mercy the Potter of Caid)
Goes back to lurking
::waves at all my friends and crosses fingers that I didn't just make a doofus of myself::
> In Hoffman's book, The Olive and the Caper, she describes a 2000+ year old
> stove style that is still in use in the present in Greece.
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> Description:
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> Made of red clay
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> ~15 inches tall
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> Wine cup shape on thick hollow stem
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> Incisions in at the bottom of the cup leading to the stem
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> At the bottom of the stem is a triangular cutout
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> Two small curlicued handles on opposite sides of the cup's broad lip
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> Presently only made and sold on the island of Sifnos
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> To use:
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> Put small heap of charcoal in the cup, perhaps with a bit of paper
> underneath
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> Light it
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> Let coals burn to red glow
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> Place food into long-handled two sided grill basket
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> Set encased food on the lip of the foufou cup over the coals
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> Cook one side
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> Flip and cook second side
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> How it works:
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> Triangular slot acts as fire-feeding air hole
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> Ashes drop through incisions into stem
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> When cinders/ashes are cool, they can be dumped out of the triangular slot
> and the cup
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> If anyone has seen one of these or knows about the historical use, I'd love
> to know:
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> 1) It seems like this design would be very fuel efficient. Is it?
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> 2) Any indications of what might have been used historically for the
> grill basket?
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> 3) Any place I could see pictures of historic or museum versions?
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> 4) Are you aware of any places in the US or Europe that have current
> ones and maybe internet photos?
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> 5) How wide is it at the top? Is the stem thinner or wider than the
> cup? How stable is it?
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> She really enjoyed using her foufou stove and used it almost daily when she
> lived in Greece in the house that had no electricity or running water. (She
> also had a gas hot plate.)
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> Any leads appreciated.
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> Sharon
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> gordonse at one.net
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