Stefan li Rous
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Fri Jan 1 21:13:03 PST 2010
Antonia di Benedetto Calvo declared:
<<< It's not that I don't think you can make haggis with other
It's just that I *like* the old-fashioned kind made with sheep's pluck,
and it drives me nuts that the authorities feel the need to save us from
something that people have been eating for milennia. I also think lungs
+ the right oats are what make a really nice texture. >>>
Well, not all period recipes for haggis contain *sheep* organs and
some period recipes for haggis don't contain organ meats at all. I
thought some were vegetarian, but I'm still looking through the file
Here is one that uses porpoise (ie: dolphin) rather than sheep.
"40. Pudding of porpoise. Take the Blood of him, & the grease of him
self, & Oatmeal, & Salt, & Pepper, & Ginger, & mix these together
then put this in the Gut of the porpoise, & then let it seethe gently, &
not hard, a good while; & then take him up, & broil him a little, & then
>Is this the mammal? Although it seems good I won't knowlingly eat
>dolphin or porpous. Sorry Ras, I'm too much of a liberal to eat
>I consider intelligent.
Yes, it's the mammal.
And here is one good reason that the FDA and other similar groups may
not allow lung tissue to be used:
"Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:04:58 -0700
From: "Anne-Marie Rousseau" <acrouss at gte.net>
Subject: Re: Haggis and lamb lungs was Re: SC - More lamb
I'm sure that its not that the FDA "doesnt consider the lung fit for
consumption", but that they're afraid of the really rather nastie
one can get specifically from sheeps lungs. (can you say liver flukes?).
These guys encyst in the lung and a cursory visual exam may or may not
them. You CAN find lungs in the country, but it takes some digging. I
there's a butcher here in Seattle who specializes in...ahem....special
bits? I could of sworn I saw the list on the wall include "lights"
the Rocky Mountains Oysters, sweet breads, etc. Another possibility is
buy the sheep yourself, ie totally skip the FDA. I'd be very careful
bought it from though...if a single sheep coughed when I was there,
pasture wasnt bone dry I doubt I'd eat the lungs (the fluke has a water
born stage...the sheep get it from eating grasses grown in watery
Migrates to the lung. Normally it encysts there for a bit, then hatches,
and crawls up the esophagus (hence the cough), gets swallowed and out in
the feces, back to the water. Rather tidy! probably more info than you
Anyway, the point is, the FDA isn’t making some sort of value
rule is there for a very good reason. You can probably get around it
want to, but be very careful!
- --Anne-Marie "
Both of these quotes are from the early days of this list and can be
found in this file in the FOOD-MEATS section of the Florilegium.
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THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra
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