[Sca-cooks] vinegar

[David Walddon]

I am basing it on the 16th century vinegar recipes I have collected from this list and others. 
I am sure that we discussed vinegar briefly about three months ago and I did get some of the recipes from list members. 
The Northern Sources being the English and the German ones do not mention apple vinegar. 
Where are you getting the information on ships and jostling and vinegar? 
You also need it to not be air tight and to have some vinegar bacteria hanging around. 
I am sure some of the wine turned to vinegar that way but surely there would be an accounting of this and the sources would indicated this is where they got their inegar from but so far all the recipes say to take wine and then talk about the process of making it (using old vinegar, using hot sticks, flavoring it, etc.). 
I will have something on my bLog later this month on the vinegar experiments. 
Eduardo 
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On Nov 27, 2010, at 12:33 AM, Stefan li Rous wrote:

> David Walddon said:
> <<< Even in the northern sources the vinegar recipes are mostly (not exclusively) for wine vinegar (no distinction on type of wine).>>>
> 
> What do you base this on? I'm not sure that vinegar would have been worth importing, however I do have comments in the vinegar-msg file in the Florilegium that one of the best ways to create vinegar was to put wine in barrels and ship it by ship. The constant jostling of the wine (or maybe wine which was already turning?) would help turn the wine into vinegar.
> 
> <<< Apples were probably used and I just found an Italian reference (no recipe) for honey vinegar. >>>
> 
> This was the first I've heard of honey vinegar. I'd like to hear more about this reference and what they said.
> 
> <<< Do you have any apple vinegar recipes? >>>
> 
> Unfortunately, I have directions on making vinegar, including from apple juice, but this one isn't a period one. I have descriptions of making vinegar in period, but no actual recipes in this file:
> vinegar-msg (123K) 7/20/10 Vinegar in period. Making vinegar.
> http://www.florilegium.org/files/FOOD/vinegar-msg.html
> 
> Stefan
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