[Sca-cooks] A Dairie Book

Thu Jan 6 13:11:38 PST 2011

Try this:

Tasso, Torquato, and Bartholomew Dowe. 1975. The householders philosophie
; anexed, A dairie booke. The English experience, its record in early
printed books published in facsimile, no. 765. Amsterdam: Theatrum Orbis
Terrarum.

Think I'll order it!  It's in our library system.

Katherine

> I have been trying to find A Dairie Book for Good Huswives.  Very
> profitable and pleasaunt for the making and keeping of white meates. 
> Printed for Thomas Hacket, London 1588.  A facsimile was printed in 1975
> by Walter J. Johnson, Norwood NJ.  I have had my local librarian searching
> for it through ILL, but she can't find it.  Any leads?
>
> Lidia
>
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>    1. Le Menagier waffles with brie (Jim and Andi Houston)
>    2. Re: Le Menagier waffles with brie (Johnna Holloway)
>    3. Re: Le Menagier waffles with brie (Johnna Holloway)
>    4. A Period Gardening Technique? (Elise Fleming)
>    5. Re: A Period Gardening Technique? (H Westerlund-Davis)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 23:18:03 -0500
> From: "Jim and Andi Houston" <jimandandi at cox.net>
> To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: [Sca-cooks] Le Menagier waffles with brie
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> Waffles
>
> by Madhavi
>
> from Le Menagier de Paris. 
>
>
>
> Waffles [127] are made in four ways. In the first, beat eggs in a bowl,
> then
> salt and wine, and add flour, and moisten the one with the other, and then
> put in two irons little by little, each time using as much batter as a
> slice
> of cheese is wide, and clap between two irons, and cook one side and then
> the other; and if the iron does not easily release the batter, anoint with
> a
> little cloth soaked in oil or fat. The second way is like the first, but
> add
> cheese, that is,
>
> spread the batter as though making a tart or pie, then put slices of
> cheese
> in the middle, and cover the edges (with batter: JH); thus the cheese
> stays
> within the batter and thus you put it between two irons. The third method,
> is for dropped waffles, called dropped only because the batter is thinner
>
> like clear soup, made as above; and throw in with it fine cheese grated;
> and
> mix it all together. - The fourth method is with flour mixed with water,
> salt and wine, without eggs or cheese.
>
>
>
> I looked through the Florilegium and couldn?t find where anyone had posted
> a
> redaction of this specific waffle description, so I thought I?d give it a
> shot.
>
>
>
> 6 eggs
>
> 1 full teaspoon of salt
>
> 1.5 c Riesling
>
> 3 c all-purpose flour
>
> Oil
>
> ? lb brie, with rind, thinly sliced
>
>
>
> Whisk eggs with wine until frothy. Add flour and salt and beat until
> smooth.
> Heat waffle iron and oil it. Pour about 1/3 c batter in each side, quickly
> add a few slices of brie, cover with another ? to 1/3 c batter, close the
> lid. Cook until they start to color.
>
>
>
> I was surprised and pleased that these waffles both rose well (with no
> leavening!) and tasted so damn good. This recipe made 12 waffles, which I
> cut into fourths. I served these waffles warm at our Baronial winter
> holiday
> feast with grilled pears sprinkled with fine spices. This was a test
> recipe
> for Trimaris St. George?s Faire in April.
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:00:23 -0500
> From: Johnna Holloway <johnnae at mac.com>
> To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Le Menagier waffles with brie
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> Maybe Stefan has a file waiting. We have discussed them before on the 
> list.
>
> Johnna
>
> On Jan 4, 2011, at 11:18 PM, Jim and Andi Houston wrote:
>
>> Waffles by Madhavi from Le Menagier de Paris.  snipped
>>
>> I looked through the Florilegium and couldn?t find where anyone had 
>> posted a
>> redaction of this specific waffle description, so I thought I?d give 
>> it a
>> shot.
>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:19:02 -0500
> From: Johnna Holloway <johnnae at mac.com>
> To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Le Menagier waffles with brie
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> There are versions in books, including: Early French Cookery: Sources, 
> History, Original Recipes and Modern Adaptations By D. Eleanor Scully, 
> Terence Peter Scully.
> That recipe can be seen on Google books.
>
> Johnnae
>
> On Jan 5, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Johnna wrote:
>
>> Maybe Stefan has a file waiting. We have discussed them before on 
>> the list.
>>
>> Johnna
>>
>> On Jan 4, 2011, at 11:18 PM, Jim and Andi Houston wrote:
>>
>>> Waffles by Madhavi from Le Menagier de Paris.  snipped
>>>
>>> I looked through the Florilegium and couldn?t find where anyone had 
>>> posted a
>>> redaction of this specific waffle description, so I thought I?d 
>>> give it a
>>> shot.
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:36:07 -0500
> From: Elise Fleming <alysk at ix.netcom.com>
> To: sca-cooks <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>,
>     "sca-middle at midrealm.org" <sca-middle at midrealm.org>
> Subject: [Sca-cooks] A Period Gardening Technique?
> Message-ID: <4D24AC07.7040902 at ix.netcom.com>
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> Greetings!  In a discussion of old gardening practices, this article
> came up on another list.  Wonder how it would work for Pennsic and
> helping the Coopers raise some crops??
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/26nwgc4
>
> *Alys K.
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:33:44 -0800 (PST)
> From: H Westerlund-Davis <yaini0625 at yahoo.com>
> To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] A Period Gardening Technique?
> Message-ID: <95421.45544.qm at web130206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> In the Modern Homesteading, Sustainable Farming and Biodynamic farming
> there is
> a great deal of discussion regarding human waste being used as compost
> material.
> The method they are using is documented in an older gardening books but
> the
> usefulness is still debatable. Realistically, all the urine is doing is
> breaking
> down the hay bale faster then it would normally have done.  It was known
> that
> human waste from pit privys were used around trees and fruit trees.
> However, in
> modern times it is not recommended. What I have found consistently in the
> historical farming books I have been reading is the use of farm animals as
> fertilizers and soil enrichment. It takes *a lot* of human waste to cover
> an
> acre of land.
>
>  In the Modern Homesteading movement, Sustainable Farming and Biodymanic
> farming
> the use of human waste for composting is discouraged or limited to non
> food
> related crops. There is a concern of e-coli contamination amongst other
> concerns.
>
> It has to be used and handled carefully since human waste is considered
> too
> "hot" and must be broken down over a six month time period before using on
> non
> food related crops. I have also read that it can take up to a year to
> compost
> correctly, depending on the method. There is a chemical/enzyme reason why
> cow,
> donkey, horse and goat animals manure is used for fertilizers over human
> and
> carnivores.
>
>  The compost toilets that some people use have enzymes that help break
> down the
> waste. A friend of mine who has the compost toilets uses the "compost" for
> her
> roses and wild flowers. There are also other versions of compost toilets
> that
> use heat and time, but take longer.
> In Biodynamic farming female cow horns are packed with manure and put in
> the
> grown for six to seven months. The result is a rich "tea" that can be
> sprayed on
> the fields.
>
> There have also been some experiments with composting with human hair.
> From
> experience, it takes about a year to compost it down. My chickens are
> faster.
> My family and I have a working modern homestead with a goal of being more
> sustainable. I am currently researching and about to start bidynamic
> farming
> certification. It has been fun to compare this current movement to our
> living
> history. This summer I did a lot research on composting. Composting
> techniques
> vary from region to region and techniques and temperatures also are
> subject to
> region and purpose. What works in Georgia doesn't always work in San
> Diego.
>
>
> For your amusement and consideration:
> http://www.barnstablecountyhealth.org/AlternativeWebpage/Composting/Composting.htm
>
> http://www.greenlivingtips.com/articles/234/1/Composting-human-waste.html
>
>
> Bless Bless
> Aelina the Saami
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Duct Tape is like the Force: It has a light side & a dark side
> and it holds the universe together.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Elise Fleming <alysk at ix.netcom.com>
> To: sca-cooks <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>; "sca-middle at midrealm.org"
> <sca-middle at midrealm.org>
> Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 9:36:07 AM
> Subject: [Sca-cooks] A Period Gardening Technique?
>
> Greetings!  In a discussion of old gardening practices, this article came
> up on
> another list.  Wonder how it would work for Pennsic and helping the
> Coopers
> raise some crops??
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/26nwgc4
>
> *Alys K.
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