susanne.mayer5 at chello.at
Sun Mar 6 12:08:14 PST 2011
Beg to differ, but there is a colony in Austria (albeit on the
Neusiedlersee, a big steppe lake on both sides of the Austrian and Hungarian
border, but definitely on our side of the lake. I have seen them for my
self, they live in the National park Neusiedlersee
And they are almost extinct even here in a protected habitat they are very
Greetings from a patriotic ;-)
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> You're looking at the present range, not what their range was pre-1600.
> great bustard's European range extended from England across Southern
> and into Central and Northern Europe. They are extinct in England,
> Switzerland and Poland. There is still a breeding population in Russia
> Hungary. It was more common than you assume.
> Almost all other large birds were taken by hunting, while turkeys, like
> geese, chickens and guinea fowl could be farm raised. Besides tasting
> better than other large birds, turkeys cost less. For Catherine de
> feast of 1549, turkey hens cost 20 sols, turkey cocks cost 30 sols,
> cost 70 sols, and swans cost 100 sols. The sol or sou is 1/20 of a livre.
>> Yes, sorry, I think I am. My apologies. That's one of the reasons for the
>> Florilegium, to augment my sometimes poor memory. I wasn't sure if they
>> were extinct or not, but this article says they aren't extinct, but
>> endangered, like so many other creatures. It also shows another reason
>> the turkey to have quickly replaced them. The bustard's area covers only
>> small area of Europe, mostly the Iberian peninsula, so even assuming a
>> larger area in medieval times, it probably wasn't that common. So
>> domesticated turkeys would have easily become more common.
>> It also sounds like a domesticated turkey would be much easier to raise
>> than swans or geese or other large birds.
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