[Sca-cooks] Sausage & Apple Pie

[wheezul at canby.com]

Just a wee note on Heathens cakes:  I strongly suspect that this title
implies the dough is made out of buckwheat.  I used to think that this
term didn't make much sense until I read a definition in a glossary for
heidenkuchen (heathen cakes) as being made from heiden/hedydenkorn which
is buckwheat.  I've also found an herbal entry for heidenkorn showing
buckwheat.  Perhaps buckwheat is called 'heathen' because it is dark in
color. In France today buckwheat is still known as noir blé (black wheat)
or sarrazin (Saracen).  I couldn't say for sure if this recipe is using
buckwheat, but based on the other early written recipes for heidenkuchen,
it would be my guess that it is so.  I wonder how it would change the
taste of the final product?

Katherine B

> There's an apple and pork pie recipe that I used for a casual dinner this
> past summer: Heathens’ cakes
> (Daz buch von gutter spise, ca. 1350)
> These are called heathens’ cakes.  Take a dough, and roll it out until
> it is very thin.  Add boiled meat, chopped bacon, apples, pepper and
> eggs.  Bake that and serve it, and don’t spoil it.
> Â 
> In joyous service,
> Raffaella
>
> From: Johnna Holloway <johnnae at mac.com>
> To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 9:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Sausage & Apple Pie
>
> The use of flour is another modern addition. There are several recipes on
> the web
> for Apple and Sausage Pies. For example
> http://www.recipejoint.com/recipe-pie/apple-and-sausage-pie.php
>
> Johnnae
>
> On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Daniel Myers wrote:
>
>>
>> It's hard to be sure, but it looks like a modern recipe to me.  The use
>> of nutmeg would put it at late-medieval. snipped
>> - Doc
>>
>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> From: Kathleen Gormanshaw <kgormanshaw at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Tue, October 04, 2011 10:08 am
>>>
>>> This recipe tastes yummy, and is believed to be medieval, but any
>>> original references are lost.  Can anyone tell me if it matches a real
>>> medieval recipe or is a modern concoction?
>>>
>>> Eyrny
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