[Sca-cooks] Early Period varieties of vegetables

[David Walddon]

I am interested in your parsnip research. 
There are recipes in De Honesta (the first five books not the last that are Martino) that uses parsnips or carrots. Very good recipes - one par-boiled rolled in "meal" and deep fried the other stewed with lettuce a spices. You could check out the journal article in PPC. 
Eduardo 

Maestro Eduardo Francesco Maria Lucrezia, O.L., O.P. Barone del Corte di AnTir

David Walddon
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On Apr 25, 2012, at 9:07 PM, Tre wrote:

> Hmm...thanks. I may rethink the purple carrots then, and just use parsnips instead, as part of my research is showing that carrots and parsnips were almost interchangeable for a while, since they were very similar. I'll do further research first, though, as I keep finding conflicting information. (Currently I'm looking up information specifically on the history of carrots.)
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> Thanks for the guess about the onions, too. I may try using shallots. I may actually be able to find something close to a wild onion, though. A yellow onion, though, seems to be the flavor I'm looking for.
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> If head cabbages were available...what KIND of head cabbage? I've found pointy ones, round ones, and ones with dark, veiny leaves... and the red ones. It's the same problem I have with onions. "Cabbage" is a wide term, and the flavors and textures vary greatly.
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> Purple carrots are an Asiatic varietal and are wrong for Viking/Anglo-Saxon. The European carrot of the day was the white carrot, Queen Anne's Lace. Colored carrots enter Europe from Spain several hundred years after.
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> For onion, I would suggest a small yellow, as wild onions are near impossible to find, or shallots.  Don't worry too much about varieties.
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> Kale is fine, but head cabbages were also available.
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> For digging out the information try starting with:  The Cambridge World History of Food, The Oxford Companion to Food, and Pliny's Natural Histories.
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> Bear
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>> I looked in the florilegium and didn't see anything...but I may have missed it.
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>> I'm trying to find varieties of several vegetables that would be at least close to the viking/anglo-saxon varieties.
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>> I already found a source for purple carrots, so plan to use those.
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>> I'm looking at Cabbage, and thinking of possibly using kale instead of modern cabbage, as some of what I'm seeing says that early cabbage was more leafy and less head.
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>> I know several of my recipes call specifically for leeks, and that isn't a problem, but other recipes call for onions, and I was wondering what variety might be closest to what was available.
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>> Has anyone done research into this, or have any ideas as to where I could find the information?
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