[Sca-cooks] Any Port in a Storm
Betsy Marshall
betsy at softwareinnovation.com
Fri Aug 10 23:35:32 PDT 2012
I'm somehow reminded of the old fashioned "proofing the oven" ie a test item
put in to see if the oven was hot enough, too hot or not quite ready yet;
(just .02 lira from a sleep deprived brain; make of it's worth no more than
that.)
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[mailto:sca-cooks-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Ian Kusz
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 12:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Any Port in a Storm
ah, but you both, in a way, answered the direct question, and I thank you.
Interesting about the pudding. Thought it might be testing whether it was
gelled, but if it's just a taste thing, it could apply to any food....the
proof of the soup, etc.
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Daniel And elizabeth phelps <
dephelps at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> Having sailed upon a stormy sea or two in my checkered past and wished
> to be quit of it at those times I can assure any who question that
> "any port in the storm" means exactly, religious exhortations not
> withstanding, what it says. Thus in such circumstances the meaning of
> the phase is closer to the use by Cleland than in the 1657 passage cited.
>
> Daniel
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> OED also lists
> [1657 S. Purchas Theatre Flying-Insects ii. 354 When weaker vessells
> beare saile only in a calme, a true vessell of Christ should saile
> best to his wished port in a storme.]
>
> 1714 R. Cocks Sermon 6 Charity..is a safe Port in a Storm, an Asylum
> to the Fugitive, [etc.].
>
> Johnnae
>
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Daniel And elizabeth phelps wrote:
>
> > The question was:
> >
> > anyone know how old the saying is, "any port in a storm?"
> >
> > Earliest written use of the phase of which I an aware is as follows:
> >
> > I feeling pretty sensibly that it was not going by the right door,
> > and knocking desperately at the wrong one, I told him of it:
> > -"Pooh!" says he, "my dear, any port in a storm."
> >
> > "Fanny Hill" John Cleland 1749
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