[Sca-cooks] Spices
David Walddon
david at vastrepast.com
Tue Jan 17 15:12:15 PST 2012
SO cool!
Thanks Master B.
I will have to do a search through Martino but I do not recall it being used at all.
Eduardo
On Jan 17, 2012, at 3:08 PM, CHARLES POTTER wrote:
>
> Sorry too take so long to get back to you, but it took me a while to look this up.
> Long pepper is listed as pepe longo on page 6 in the 1564 Libro Novo. It is also
> listed as one word (pepelongo) in the PDF 1549 Banchetti.
> In both books it is listed as an ingredient in the 3rd recipe to wit: A FARE SOSAMELLI PERFETTISSIMI NV (sig) MERO (sig) XXXVI
> TO MAKE 36 OF THE MOST PERFECT COOKIES. It is called pevere longo in the recipe i.e long pepper. I think it is used in one or two
> more recipes, but I have not been able to find any more right now.
>
> Master B
>
>> From: david at vastrepast.com
>> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:05:38 -0800
>> To: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org
>> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Spices
>>
>> What is the Italian?
>> Which page of the facsimile?
>> Would love to look at it.
>>
>> Eduardo
>>
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>> David Walddon
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>> On Jan 15, 2012, at 7:34 PM, CHARLES POTTER wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The Banchetti/Libro Novo uses long pepper in a few recipes and lists in the section on things to have in the larder.
>>>
>>> Master B
>>>
>>>> From: david at vastrepast.com
>>>> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:39:43 -0800
>>>> To: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Spices
>>>>
>>>> This brings up an interesting question.
>>>> When a manuscript just says pepper we all seem to assume they mean regular black pepper (or at least we use it because it is handy).
>>>> IIRC the Early English stuff seems to differentiate between long pepper and pepper but the Italian corpus (of which I am most familiar) doesn't seem to say anything but pepper.
>>>> Should we be using modern pepper?
>>>> Should we be using one of the long peppers?
>>>> Really let's not go there on chili peppers.
>>>>
>>>> Eduardo
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 14, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Terry Decker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ahh, Piper longum is the more common long pepper. It is also referred to as Indian long pepper. Piper retrofractum is a related pepper plant native to Java called Balinese long pepper or Javanese long pepper. If both were used at Hampton Court in Tudor times, that is an interesting tidbit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bear
>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings! I hadn't been aware that there were two (or more??) kinds of long pepper until I visited Hampton Court. I was given a tiny bit of the second variety (name unknown) which ended up being so spicy that my tongue was numbed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alys K.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Elise Fleming
>>>>>
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