[Sca-cooks] Last Minute Genovese Feast

Karen Lyons-McGann karenthechef at gmail.com
Mon Oct 29 22:09:29 PDT 2012

Does anyone have opinions on these books?



On Monday, October 29, 2012, Karen Lyons-McGann wrote:

> "Between the 4th and the 10th centuries Liguria was controlled by the
> Byzantines <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine>, the Lombards<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lombards> of
> KingRothari <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothari> (about 641) and the
> Franks <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franks> (about 774) and it was
> invaded by the Saracens <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saracens> (according
> to Arthur Hill Hassall, under Saracen occupation and rule from c. 876 – c.
> 972)[5] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liguria#cite_note-4> and the Normans<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normans>.
> In the 10th century, once the danger of pirates decreased, the Ligurian
> territory was divided into three marches and in the 11th century (when
> the Genoese ships played a major role in the first crusade, carrying
> knights and troops to the Middle-East for a fee) and the 15th century, the Republic
> of Genoa <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Genoa> experienced an
> extraordinary political and commercial success (mainly spice trades with
> the Orient). It was one of the most powerful maritime republic in the
> Mediterranean <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean> from the 12th
> to the 14th century"
> Yes, Islamic might be of use. As might an online copy of *De Observatione
> Ciborum, or maybe the Carolingian Foodways TI from earlier this year.*
> *
> *
> *Bonne*
> *
> *
> On Monday, October 29, 2012, David Friedman wrote:
>> Would period Islamic be closer than Apicius? Southern Italy was under
>> civilized occupation for a fair while, and I would expect a good deal of
>> influence. Available sources would include the anonymous Andalusian
>> cookbook, which is on my site, al-Baghdadi, al-Warraq, ...  . You can find
>> a fair number of recipes, original and worked out version, in the
>> /Miscellany/, which is available as a free pdf from my site.
>> On 10/28/12 9:38 PM, Karen Lyons-McGann wrote:
>>> Genoa, December 1099
>>> I've begun with Apicius and Martino and the Neoolitan cookbook because
>>> that's what I have.  So that's one earlier than and two later than
>>> sources.
>>>   Not great.

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