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Jim and Andi Houston jimandandi at cox.net
Wed Sep 5 15:57:12 PDT 2012

My understanding is that drinking alcohol (especially wine) was part of the
Sunni/Shia cultural divide, and the Sufis were somewhat outside of this.

The Persians, for instance, produced and exported large amounts of wine
during the latter parts of our period. I've read some 16th century Central
Asian autobiographies and "wine parties" were commonplace and acceptable
behavior by everyone except the imams & holy men.


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There are lots of period anecdotes that imply that Caliphs pretty routinely
violated the rule against drinking wine. Rather like medieval priests being
less celibate than they were supposed to be. I doubt it required any sufi

As someone already pointed out, the different schools of law differed in
exactly what was forbidden. The translator of al-Warraq seems to think that
anything (other than grapes?) fermented no more than three days was licit.
I'm pretty sure another source I saw specified date beer fermented no more
than three days.

On 8/29/12 8:28 PM, Terry Decker wrote:
> At the time al-Kitab al-Tabih was written, Sufism was spreading widely 
> in the region.  The looser interpretation of the Q'uran and the use of 
> alcohol presented in the work may be a reflection of Sufist philosophy 
> being embraced by the Caliph's court.  Any thoughts?

David Friedman

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