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<DIV><SPAN class=646343717-05062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Fear
not, good Lisabetta. Your efforts are appreciated in whatever manner, and
from my experience here, I predict that humble Huette was not intending any
rebuff at all. This is a topic near and dear to Huette's heart and often
elecits a short, and sometimes empassioned plea. There has been, over the
course of the near decade I have participated on this list, an effort to modify
the commonly held language used in describing and discussing the meals
(primarily feasts) in our hobby. Some efforts have met with huge success .
. . feast-o-crat extermination . . . being one of them. some areas and
groups still cling to that word made up exclusively for our hobby, but many have
sought out new and more descriptive actual words to label their office and
efforts.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=646343717-05062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>"Remove" is one that has been more resistant to our efforts at
change. We all have had very similar experiences that the word is
ubiquitous and even universal in the SCA hobby culture. Some research and
essays have suggested that the word is incorreclty used, and actually
descriptive of a concept not at all high medieval, and probably out of the scope
of our hobby time period. A "course" of dishes is the more likely used
term in most times and places according to the most recent reliable essays on
the subject. So, us fire and food geeks are setting about, once again, to
change the lexicon of this little subgroup of the world's population we call the
SCA.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=646343717-05062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>As
Anne-Marie spake, I concur that the one sweating and setting fire to flesh gets
to call it whatever they want. My grand meals were set out in courses,
perosonally, in my little piece of Meridies back 5 years ago or so. those
who learned and listened to my rantings followed that tradition. so, a
small pocket of scholarly cooks in Northern GA were prophets for the "course"
adoption. No telling who else along the Gulf Coast took up that mantle . .
. not too many as the word "remove" still has many ardent followers still
:o)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=646343717-05062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>niccolo difrancesco</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=646343717-05062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>(I say
follow the gourd since the sandal is less important and followed by
plitters)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=646343717-05062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>(Go
for LeMenagier . . . I have some recipes adapted from that source at <A
href="http://franiccolo.home.mindspring.com/recipes_main.htm">http://franiccolo.home.mindspring.com/recipes_main.htm</A> ,
though most are English and Italian)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
sca-cooks-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org
[mailto:sca-cooks-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>betta<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 05, 2006 1:07 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Cooks
within the SCA<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Sca-cooks] remove vs
course<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Huette, </DIV>
<DIV>Seeing as the only two attempts you have made to me have been
condescending and not polite in any such way.. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have those to say of my 24 years and 10 months of being in the sca,
very very very very rarely have I seen the term course used instead of
remove. I am not saying you are wrong I am just saying that here in the
south this is what I have witnessed, so I will make an attempt when I am
addressing you ( which I don't really see happening seeing as my very
first post to the group you were rude and insulting enough to make a newcomer
run and hide ! ) to use your preferred term <BR><BR><B><I>Huette von
Ahrens <ahrenshav@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">The
term "remove" is a Victorian concept. The proper term for each
individual<BR>section of a feast is "course". To help you remember this, I
have this mnemonic:<BR><BR>Please remove "remove" and add "course" of
course!<BR><BR>Thanks.<BR><BR>Huette<BR><BR>--- betta
<LADYLISABETTA@YAHOO.COM>wrote:<BR><BR>> Okay, <BR>> It is going to be
French, and 4 removes <BR>> The last remove will be a desserts &
salad remove<BR>> <BR>> as said before it will be for roughly 80
people, we do have a lot of people on Atkins, and<BR>> would like to have
a balance for those who don't do the starches.. <BR>> <BR>> we also
have a few non red meat & non pork eaters, so I am thinking at least one
needs to<BR>> include chicken.. <BR>> <BR>> anyone have links for
period french cuisine?<BR>> <BR>> and yes Clara I will schedule time
to come over :) <BR>> <BR>> Lisabetta <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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