SR - Principality Arms Discussion

[Dennis and/or Dory Grace]

Pug suggested:
>Sable, a lion holding a star Or.
>
>I believe the default posture for a lion is rampant.

That sounds very nice and elegant, and I've always like the rampant
posture, or at the very least, an erect posture or a sejant erect. However,
a principality has to have to have a laurel wreath, and the crown is a good
idea. But if you place the gold laurel wreath like Gunnora mentioned, where
all the rest of the charges are within it, that would look nice. I also
tend to agree with you on putting the crown in chief as opposed to on the
lion's head. If it were a different color lion, I think the crown on his
head would be very nice, but I think you're right about it blending in too
much with the lion's head if they're both Or. Then again, if you look on
page 33 of Friar's "A Dictionary of Heraldry," on the page showing
'Attitudes', they show a couple lions wearing crowns/coronets, all black on
white, and they don't look blended in, so I suppose you could have the gold
lion wearing a gold coronet without it all blending together if the
treatment is proper. On the gripping hand (sorry, I really liked Niven's
"Mote in God's Eye" ;->), I don't believe a crown or coronet is actually
required for Principality arms; though it does seem like a very nice idea.

Just as a sort of side note, if you look in the Known World Handbook, An
Tir's arms are: Checky Or and argent, a lion rampant tail forked and nowed
sable, crowned gules, grasping in dexter forepaw a laurel wreath bendwise
vert. Very nice looking arms. I think something like what Pug described,
with within a gold laurel wreath, would have enough points of difference to
be ok. Of course, that's just based on other kingdom's arms alone. Other
than the principality arms Artemisia had,  I'm not sure what other
principality's arms look like.

On putting a crown in there, do you suppose if the star is big enough, we
could put a black coronet on top of (inside of/upon) the gold star?

Here's another idea--what about having the lion holding a coronet in one
paw, and have the base of the laurel wreath a star?  Modification--instead
of rampant, have the lion salient afronte, ie., leaping out at the
observer, with the coronet above its head in chief, with the same treatment
of the laurel wreath issuing out of the star in base. Wooo. Cool.

Aquilanne


Dory Grace--The Inkwell
denouncer of Tytyvylus & warrior crone
amazing at mail.utexas.edu
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