SR - A Question Concern

[Randy Wrinkle]

I will concede as a con:

However, I just came into this late yesterday...I am not sure of the reasons
people want the principality.  I do however, think it would be great to have
another royal couple....I do think it will be wonderful to have better recognition
for all of you.  I can not concede where I think it will improve events
though...maybe someone could briefly email me and explain the pro's again.

I am also worried about how it will affect knightings and awards, etc.  What if
the others turn their back on us for building this principality and we become
segregated?  I do not mean to sound that I am only interested in the knightings
and awards....it was just an example I thought of.  Meghann MacGuire

PKieferjr at aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 98-06-23 22:20:05 EDT, you write:
>
> << I can certainly understand feeling blindsided by the whole thing, but it
>  really hasn't gotten very much past "let's all talk about it."  There
>  are folks who feel passionately about the issue on both sides; as Daniel
>  said, the point is to come to a consensus, with both sides displaying
>  courtesy and respect while being forthright about their views.
>
>  If that's not possible, the Dream's in danger anyway.
>   >>
>
> Ya know, a thought just occurred to me.....
>
> In the interest of building a consensus, I believe there are supposed to be
> concessions on either or both sides.
>
> And yet, here we are, stating our reasoning at a loud yell (figuratively),
> butting heads like rams, niether side conceding any ground and acting as if
> the other was an enemy to be stomped into the ground (admittedly, I may be
> guilty of this) until they were dead.
>
> Where are the gives and takes?  Where are the concessions?  Where's the
> compromise?
>
> Where's the consensus?
>
> This does not promote the idea of being able to form a principality.
>
> So, in the interest of promoting peace and harmony, I will concede the
> following.
>
> Granted:
>
> The amount of paperwork has the possibility of growing.  Note, I only said
> "POSSIBILITY".  You cannot guarantee that it will anymore than I can guarantee
> that it won't, but I will concede it's possibility.
>
> Granted:
>
> The possibility of the evolution of principality into kingdom exists....but
> only as a POSSIBILITY (there's that word again).  As evidenced by the West,
> there are other possibilities.
>
> Granted:
>
> That there are other avenues that can facilitate awards other than
> Royalty.....but they are also subject to the laws of physics, just as Royalty
> is.  Therefore, there exists the possibility that a Principality can also
> facilitate these awards.
>
> Granted:
>
> That not everyone gets out and travels as much as some folks.....but someone
> does.    Within the region, I've been to events hosted by Ffynnon Gath,
> Bjornsborg, Ravensfort, and Middleford.  Rarely have I gone out to Mendersham,
> Steppes, and Emerald Keep.  I'm planning to attend Queen's Champion in
> Oklahoma.  It'll be my first foray deep into the Northern Region.....but it
> proves that my main travel is within the region.
>
> So, those are my concessions, and my arguments pro.
>
> Now, who on the other side is willing to concede?
>
> BTW, my biggest pet peeve.....is when everybody thinks that their thinking is
> the only correct thinking.....I'm seeing evidence that we're headed that
> way....not everybody....just a few.
>
> Lord Johann Kiefer Hayden (Paul E. Kiefer, Jr.)
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