SR - Hope for Wrenne and the rest...

Dory Grace dgrace at austin.rr.com
Mon Nov 22 13:44:56 PST 1999


I have to agree with Dieter (at least the parts before his medication wore
off ;->). I don't think a lot of folk realize what an *exceptional* voter
response 30% or so is. It certainly *doesn't* mean that 70% of the region is
"apathetic" about having a name. There may very well be a percentage who
don't care one way or the other, but that certainly doesn't of necessity
spell apathy for the majority. Case in point, I *love* the name Campoleone.
I didn't vote either time. Was it because I feel "apathetic" about the
cause? No. I've been very busy with mundane concerns and just haven't been
around when ballots were handed out. Lyonel voted the first time but not the
second. Did he suddenly become "apathetic" about the project? No. Even with
as active as he's been, he's not been to business meetings for a while as
he's been busy as well. I think some folks are making some wrong assumptions
and are completely ignoring the consistency of the actual results of the
ballots that *have* come in. Two go-arounds have come back with the same
result. But rather than have anyone think I'm for "rushing" the process
(lord knows some dinosaurs get charlie-horses if they move faster than a
crawl), I'm all for doing it one more time. Send out the ballots, make sure
there's a space for folk to vote "none of the above" or "no, I don't want
the region to have a name or identity at all," and give everyone up till the
Southern Regional event to get the ballots in. Make the ballots available
online as well as in hard copy to make sure as many people as possible have
the easiest access possible to the voting process. I'll bet money the
results come back the same; but hey, third time's a charm, right?

I think it would also be interesting to compare the number of folks who
voted for a name with the number of folks who are grousing about a name.
Just something to think about.


Dory Grace
The Inkwell ~ Austin, TX
http://www.inkwellarts.com
dgrace at inkwellarts.com

"No matter where you go, there you are."
----- Original Message -----
From: Casey&Coni <weed at sage.net>
To: <southern at Ansteorra.ORG>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 2:28 PM
Subject: SR - Hope for Wrenne and the rest...


> Regarding Meabhs appraisal of the situation, Wrenne wrote:
>
> It seems quite apparent taht we as a reagion are not quite ready
> >to make this decision for what ever reason.  I personally think it should
> >be put on hold for now and concentrate on working together as a region
> >first.
>
>
> I have kept up with the goings on here on the list and I think there may
be
> another reason for the limited but vocal pessimism we've been seeing
Wrenne;
> do not lose faith.  I am completely behind the results we have despite the
> fact that my favorite choices did not get chosen.  I think this is the
case
> in the majority but because of the flubbed ballot fiasco the first time
> around we lost participation and involvement due to lack of faith in the
> current system.  Many spoke their minds and felt that The Powers That Be
> (TPTB hereafter) knew their mind well enough.
>
> To shore up your faith in the direction this has been driving keep in the
> fore that for *both* votes, regardless of red tape snafus, the result was
> that Campoleone finished first.  I have an inkling that Bjornsborgs
opinion
> will soon be added to the current results and further predict that
> Campoleone will remain in the fore (Bjornsborgers have a knack for being
> heard, you know ;0).  If this turns out to be the case we will have had on
> two occasions come to the same conclusion... is this really such a
disparate
> occurance?  Are we really as far apart from each other as many here have
> said?  I think the answer, obviously, is 'no'.
>
> What further encourages me is the number of people I've spoken with online
> or in person who have said, "Campoleone wasn't my first choice but I'm
> certainly willing to get behind it since it's the choice we made."   You
> expect to hear the 'ever onward' cry from the people who chose Campoleone
as
> their first vote but I think you've got a special group of people who can
> accept and respect a decision reached by the group as a whole so long as
> they got their chance to speak up.
>
> There's a lot of love out there in the southern region, Wrenne... it's
> peekin out from around all these noisy issues like we're a familly around
> the holidays.
>
> Now if Meabh can just keep Ivar out of the oven til the turkey's done the
> rest of us can get Pendaran away from the Cowboys game for a second, keep
> Middleford from shooting holes in the new fence and get Tempio to shut up
> about their deerstand...  and for gosh sakes who let the dogs out?  And
why
> don't Timos kids have their pants on??  Did you hear they think the water
in
> Fynnon Gath may be why Sir Corwin and his squires are a little... touched?
> That's what Ravensfort side says, anyway... not that you can introduce
them
> to the Queen either, don't you know...  Kate!  Kaaaate!!!  Kazamir's
chewing
> on his cane agayun!
>
> [end family busibody mode]
>
> Happy Thanksgiving.... Campoleone [*duck* *WHOOSH* *DING* *Bam!* *splat*]
>
>
>
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