ST - Elfsea Springfaire Site

baron at elfsea.ansteorra.org baron at elfsea.ansteorra.org
Mon Feb 19 07:24:55 PST 2001 

The Tanglewood Forest site is lovely, and improving 
dramatically.  I hope y'all will come to Spring Faire 
and enjoy it.

I don't believe it's large enough to accomdate Steppes 
Warlord.  Perhaps in the future, after additional 
development is completed, but I doubt Warlord would fit 
on that site within the next two or three years.

- Galen Elfsea


Quoting "Martha A. Compton" <macpob1 at airmail.net>:

> Just my 0.02....
> 
> Yes the Canton site is mundane and some people do not 
like it for that and
> other
> reasons, but the main reason that Canton works for 
Steppes Warlord is the
> availability of sanitation for 500 to 1200 people 
over a Thursday to Monday
> weekend.   This concern must be fully addressed at 
this new site before
> real
> consideration of moving Warlord can begin.
> 
> Muireann
> 
> Jhan Knebel wrote:
> 
> > The site is 50 acres.
> > Currently, there are not flush toilets or shower, 
but
> > he is looking for a contractor to do this work, as
> > well as build the covered pavillion for the
> > feast/court area.
> >
> > As far as I know, we are not allowed to build on it,
> > but don't quote me on that. This is owned by a
> > gentleman who is in Amtguard, and he has allowed 
land
> > grants to his amtguard members, and those developed
> > campsites are off limits to us.
> >
> > There is electricity around the future feasthall 
area,
> > but it is limited and could not be made available to
> > the general populace, but the event could make use 
of
> > it. There is no running water on site.
> >
> > Hope this answers some questions...
> >
> > Rixende
> >
> > --- Annette Brauer <mabrauer at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > I am forwarding this from the Elfsea list.  They
> > > have found a new site that
> > > is yes primative, but is being improved.  It is on
> > > 25 acres.  This is
> > > something that we may consider for a future 
Warlord
> > > site.  They are holding
> > > Springfaire there which will give us a change to
> > > check the site out and see
> > > if it will meet our needs for Warlord.
> > >
> > > One of my concerns about the site was answered by
> > > Fearghus since he is also
> > > in a wheelchair.
> > >
> > > The other concern is electricity and a hall with
> > > airconditioning.  Currently
> > > the only place that there is electricity is by the
> > > main road.  There are
> > > plans for a large permanent pavilion where court 
and
> > > the A & S competetion
> > > can be held, but it is not airconditioned.  With
> > > Warlord being so hot it is
> > > almost a necessity to have a place where were can
> > > cool off.
> > >
> > > The benifits of this place.  Land grabs, I belive
> > > that we could build on if
> > > I remember right, but someone from the Elfsea list
> > > could clarify that for
> > > me.  It would be more period than Canton, big plus
> > > here.
> > >
> > > The owners of the land are going to use the money
> > > they get from events held
> > > there to make improvements.  I don't remember if
> > > there are currently showers
> > > or flush toilets but again someone from Elfsea can
> > > clarify this for us.
> > >
> > >
> > > In Service
> > >
> > > Ldy Mary Elizabeth
> > >
> > > From: Fearghus <lordfearghus at home.com>
> > > To: elfsea at ansteorra.org <elfsea at ansteorra.org>
> > > Date: Saturday, February 17, 2001 9:11 PM
> > > Subject: Re: ES - Site for Springfaire
> > >
> > >
> > > >I too visited the site for Springfaire today. 
While
> > > I was one of the
> > > >skeptical people about the viability of using 
this
> > > site, I am now a
> > > >convert.
> > > >With all of the rain that we have had this week,
> > > the main roads through the
> > > >site had drained very well. There was no danger 
of
> > > getting stuck if you
> > > >stayed on the road.
> > > >
> > > >In the area that Timothy has designated to be 
used
> > > for court and feast, and
> > > >the area for the merchants, the ground was hard
> > > packed sand and gravel
> > > >rock.
> > > >I was able to navigate this area in my wheelchair
> > > with little difficulty
> > > >and
> > > >my scooter would have no problem at all. The 
owners
> > > have cleared a lot of
> > > >camping areas and the areas we will be using for
> > > the list field could hold
> > > >a
> > > >small melee.
> > > >
> > > >While there were areas of standing water, for the
> > > most part the property
> > > >seems to drain very well and unless we get a 
weeks
> > > worth of the "R" word
> > > >before the event it should be no problem even if 
we
> > > receive any , uh, you
> > > >know what I am talking about during the event.
> > > >
> > > >One draw back, by no means a show stopper, the
> > > roads are only wide enough
> > > >for one vehicle at a time, so when people get on
> > > site they will need to
> > > >unload their camp items and move their cars 
before
> > > actually setting up
> > > >camp.
> > > >This will require the constables for the event to
> > > act as traffic cops more
> > > >than security. For an event larger than 
Springfaire
> > > parking would be a
> > > >problem with the current conditions but I expect 
as
> > > they clear and develop
> > > >more of the property there will be more parking.
> > > >
> > > >They were working today building foot bridges
> > > across areas that held water
> > > >and were building an enclosed building to be used
> > > as a first aid station.
> > > >Yes our chirurgeons will have their own little
> > > hospital. For the Archers
> > > >this will be a refreshing set up. As it stands 
the
> > > archery range will be
> > > >directly behind the baronial pavilion. This will
> > > keep us in the main stream
> > > >of what is happening at the event.
> > > >
> > > >Over all I was really impressed and I think the
> > > positives definitely
> > > >outweigh the negatives. I see great potential for
> > > this site to not only be
> > > >utilized by our group, but other SCA groups that
> > > are just as close if not
> > > >closer than we are. Tim you did good in finding
> > > this site and forgive me
> > > >for
> > > >being skeptical.
> > > >
> > > >In service to my barony,
> > > >Fearghus
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Spence & Robin Mabry" <smabry at flash.net>
> > > >To: <elfsea at ansteorra.org>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 7:26 PM
> > > >Subject: RE: ES - Site for Springfaire
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Yeah!!!!
> > > >>
> > > >>Then it won't be like Canton (hopefully)!!!!
> > > >>
> > > >>Ceatta
> > > >>
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org
> > > [mailto:owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org] On
> > > >>Behalf Of Jhan Knebel
> > > >>Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 6:01 PM
> > > >>To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
> > > >>Subject: Re: ES - Site for Springfaire
> > > >>
> > > >>Ceatta et all,
> > > >>
> > > >>I just returned from the site and am happy to
> > > report
> > > >>that the site handled the rain far better than I
> > > >>expected. The roads were still very passable on
> > > foot,
> > > >>and vehicles were able to drive them with no
> > > problems.
> > > >>It appeared that they have done some drainage 
work
> > > >>since I was last out there in November, and 
while
> > > the
> > > >>ground other than roads was wet, it was not
> > > >>impassable.
> > > >>
> > > >>Rixende
> > > >>
> > > >>--- Spence & Robin Mabry <smabry at flash.net> 
wrote:
> > > >> > Lord Timothy,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > After all the rain we've had, what would be 
the
> > > >> > likelihood of visiting the
> > > >> > site to see how it looks afterwards?  It 
might
> > > be
> > > >> > enlightening.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Ceatta
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > >
> > >
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