[Steppes] [Fwd: APD Trample test]

[Mike Catron]

Greetings to the Archers of Steppes.

This is Michael of the Fray, I have been in contact with Gilli, Dux, and
Fearghus in regard to conducting a "Trample Test" for the Golf Tube
(GT)  APD that is Gilli's design.

I have arranged for a "Trample Test" to be conduct at the joint practice
this Sunday at Randol Mills park in Arlington.

Currently, Fearghus will be there with the samples and/or his own GT APD
arrows for such a test. The purpose of the test is to lay the GT APD's
on the ground and have the fighters "trample" them during war practice
and document the results.

If any of archers have their own GT APD and wish to assist in getting
this design approve, then by all means bring your GT APD's to practice
this Sunday. Be aware that this test may damage these GT APD's, but this
is what we all need to find out about GT APD now, rather than later.
Hopefully, this testing will speed the approval process along.

The message below is from Gilli and outlines the requirements that he
needs to properly document such a test.

Hope to see all of you there.

Michael of the Fray



"Dewart, Charles R. --G3 Contractor (Anteon Corp)" wrote:
>
> The thing about the golf tube is that it's easily reformed.  Then if it
> can't be, which I haven't seen yet, it's easily replaced.
>
> My only concern with it is the way I store them in the boxes.  I think the
> ones on the bottom will get smashed.  So, to prevent that, I will make a
> little shipping plug for each one.  It's going to a 1/2 inch section of
> schedlue 40 PVC with a little red pull tab.  That's just for me.  I don't
> think most folks will have aproblem because they won't be storing large
> numbers at the same time.
>
> OK, here is the purpose of the trample test.  They want to see if the APD is
> damaged or even removed from the shaft due to being under foot in combat
> conditions.  So if you all manage to do it, I'll need to know the
> following:1) how big an area did the arrows occupy, 2) how many fighters, 3)
> how long were they fighting over the arrows, 4) approx. temperature. 5) if
> the APD was not round how much effort / to make it round again, 6) were any
> riped from the shaft.
>
> Do you have the web site that shows how to do the taping of those Goof Tube
> APDs?  If not let me know.  It's important that they be wrapped exactly as
> shown.  The only change I'm thinking of doing is to move the nock up farther
> (not as much showing)
>
> The way I shoot them is like I'm holding a really big cigar.  If you do any
> shooting you may want to practice holding them, drawing them.etc.  AS with
> any new weapon system, some "getting use to" may be helpful / required.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Gilli
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Catron [mailto:meggiddo at netzero.net]
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 9:48 AM
> To: Dewart, Charles R. --G3 Contractor (Anteon Corp)
> Subject: Re: APD Trample test
>
> Ok.
>
> Will attempt to get with Fearghus on those.
>
> Will also go about building some myself.
>
> Will report back on the results to you.
>
> There is some concern about using Golf Tubes for APD's, the concern will
> they stand up to that type of abuse. Which is what this test is for.
>
> Michael of the Fray
>
> "Dewart, Charles R. --G3 Contractor (Anteon Corp)" wrote:
> >
> > That's great.  However, for a variety of reasons, I'm not ready to do it
> > yet.
> >
> > But if you guys get with Fearghus up there, and get some of those I left
> up
> > there.  Or purhaps make some more.  You all could do it.  Then report back
> > on how they faired.
> >
> > What do you think???
> >
> > Gilli
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Catron [mailto:meggiddo at netzero.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 3:01 PM
> > To: Dewart, Charles R. --G3 Contractor (Anteon Corp)
> > Subject: APD Trample test
> >
> > Gilli,
> >
> > The Brigade (Elfsea and Steppes) will holding a joint fighter practice
> > this Sunday. I have spoken with the Brigade's commander - Dux, it is OK
> > with him if a trample test is conducted during that time. He does not
> > see a problem from any of the other fighters.
> >
> > There should be archery marshals from both Elfsea and Steppes on site.
> > Also, I would be taking photos of the arrows.
> >
> > I would have to build some GT APD on mount them on fiberglass shafts for
> > the test up here. Do you have any issue(s) or suggestions with this?
> >
> > Will this speed up the approval process for GT APD's?
> >
> > Michael of the Fray
> >
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